He looked very good the other night. Very encouraging. I thought he looked bad in game 1, I didn't wanna be that guy that harped on it though. However he looked great thursday night so in the spirit of not overreacting either way I am not going to freak out about it but it was a very nice performance. he still has kind of a funky, slow delivery. I can't put my finger on it.
You're talking about Bryce Petty, right? His delivery is anything but slow. He's got the quickest release of any QB we have had in decades.
Idk what it is. I haven't watched enough of him I guess but the way the ball comes out looks weird to me though. its like side armed or something
really you did it on the other thread first...you remember when you said Geno had a friend that had died....Do you need me to pull that up for you too? You recall the post where you did not like my translations and you called me out for not knowing english? Moron the only Joke around here is you dude. How quickly you forget. You are completely and utterly transparent. If your not Geno you must be his mother. As far as hate this isn't this is the truth, I hate the dolphins and pats; geno I just don't think is NFL QB and that has been proven out the last yr and half by his on field play and off field choices. I keep bringing up stats and his history and this is the best you can do. I hate geno? no not personally I hate what he did to my team. I hate that Sanchez was ran out of town and they are the same qb except Sanchez appears to be a better team mate and leader. You hate being called out on it. Just stop posting stupid crap in the wrong thread and I won't call you out it. yeah let's trade Petty when Geno comes back when the gm has no real ties to geno and drafted petty.And then post it in a thread about how good petty has been doing. And I am the joke get a clue. Who in their right mind post that garbage really?
I think it is fitz's job to loose period. If fitz is healthy and they look good why would you bench him?. It is not a lock geno comes back to start. Crap it might even be a lock if the coaches think he can't handle being a leader they dress him for the first 6 to 8 games
My theory on this situation is. When Mac and Bowles and Gailey came onto the Jets, they watched Geno's film and determined that they saw enough in him to give him a shot. But obviously they couldn't hand him the job, so they got Fitz to be the backup and to push Geno and/or mentor Geno and Bryce. They probably think he could be a long term starter, and Bryce is drafted in case Geno falters, they'd already have a guy they've been grooming for a few years that could take over, and if they don't think Bryce is the long term answer, they could use Bryce as a hold the fort guy while they develop whoever else they draft in the future. Petty only competes next year if Geno has a mediocre 2015 season.
Well, you have to see if Geno's the answer from a play perspective (not on some arbitrary "is he a leader?" perspective, which is prone to bias and subjectivism). Winning and good play cures all. Fitz definitely isn't the answer so Geno should start when he comes back. Fitz was brought here as a backup, not a starter.
Your post clearly demonstrates the folly of saying that every QB should be treated the same and that QBs taken in a draft should immediately see the field unless the team has a proven, quality starting QB. It also clearly demonstrates the folly of using statistics to justify those viewpoints. If I'm the HC/GM of any of the teams youi mentioned (with the exception of Mallet's), neither Petty, Mariota or Winston would see the field this year, or at least for a while. Since the Titans have Mettenberger and he played last year, he would start initially. Mariota needs to learn the offense, adjust to the speed of the NFL, and adjust to the different offensive system. Even though Winston played in a more pro style offense at FSU, he obviously isn't ready to start, either. He has to learn the offense, adjust to the speed of the NFL, and work on whatever issues he's having. As for Mallett, I don't remember how long he has been in the NFL, who drafted him, and who the other QBs are on his team, but I recall him as not being rated very highly entering the draft. If he's been in the NFL a couple of years (and I think he's been there at least one year, if not two), then he should be able to compete for a starting spot. He just may not be that good. My point is that you have to look at each QB individually and independent of where one's team is. You don't risk a topflight QB prospect by throwing him to the wolves if he's not ready to play, I don't give a damn if the rest of your team is built to compete now and the window is closing. That's a surefire way to ruin a QB prospect. Better to go with the vet and do what one can. IMO fans (and obviously some NFL HCs and GMs), buy into the BS that if one can make the playoffs and get hot, anything can happen. It just isn't realistic most of the time. The odds are heavily against that happening. One has to be smarter and more patient. If you thrust a QB who isn't ready to play onto the field and ruin his confidence/psyche, then you aren't going to win squat and you have just pushed things back even further and insured that your built to win now team isn't going to win. Better to be patient for a year and really work with the rookie QB, do everything one can to help him develop free from the pressure of playing, and hope that he can take the job next year in camp. Very few QBs can be thrown to the wolves and survive, much less thrive. Peyton Manning went 1-13 his rookie season. Andrew Luck went 11-5, but he was a "can't miss" prospect with 4 years starting experience in a pro-style offense, had prototypical size, tools, and was the complete package. You can't compare other QBs with him and expect the same results. Most other rookie QBs thrust into that kind of pressure, usually crumble and fold, never to recover. Anything else is usually just plain delusional.
Dumb, dumb, dumb as Al Bundy. There is no reason to release Geno. Petty should not play this season. More than likely Fitz isn't going to stay healthy or play at a high level all season. The team will still need Geno, and don't even bother to talk about Flynn. He's crap. GB wouldn't even keep him twice.
Perhaps not, but he's also too smart to throw a potential franchise QB to the wolves and risk ruining him before he's ready.
I wouldn't have a problem with his starting the last two games, because I have enough confidence in his abilities and where he is already, that he would be ready enough to play by that point and not be crushed if he didn't play well. If I'm wrong and he's not ready to see the field, however, he shouldn't play, I don't care what the situation with the team is.
So Geno has tried for two years to be the answer he isn't. The indecent in the locker kind of cements that. The only reason I say it is Fitz job is because all he is doing is holding the position. Either it is Petty in a year or two after being groomed or someone who is not on the roster yet. This team has a part to blame for geno being what he is. But a good part of the blame goes onto Geno himself. look at the scouting reports posted here and tell me they are not accurate now after watching him play for two yrs. leaders do not do that. We have seen enough of of Geno's behavior to pretty much say he is not the answer. Every time there is an excuse from cursing out fans, missing team meetings, or this past thing with IK. When do people say enough is enough.
and you know how? look I sit geno on pup till week 8. I have seen geno do the same thing not stay healthy or play at a high level. What we need is for fitz to play as a game manager. just be average that's it nothing more nothing less. we need that from any qb this yr.
I disagree. Bledsoe was not that good. If Brady had command of the offense and was constantly outplaying Bledsoe in practice and preseason, he would have gotten a shot sooner rather than later.
I agree that the idea of trading Petty is idiotic. I disagree that Geno has necessarily failed. Is he where we want him to be, or perhaps should be by this point? No, but I believe that for at least 2015, he gives us a better chance of winning than Fitz does. Fitz has a limited arm and doens't have the mobility of Geno. He is almost as TO prone as Geno. At least, in practice, Geno has looked dramatically different this year. If Fitz plays well, then the Jets should roll with him. When Geno is ready to return from injury and the Jets are 1-3 or worse, or maybe even 2-2 and things are moving in the wrong direction with Fitz, I believe that Geno should be given a shot. If he flops again this year, shows poor leadership skills, decision making and turns the ball over, then I'll agree with you that Geno should go. Until that happens, I don't think it makes any sense to give up on him yet. QBs are too hard to find. I think Petty is going to develop into a very good QB. Even if he does, the Jets are going to need a backup. Depending upon how he plays this year, Fitz probably will only play another year or two. Geno could be a good backup QB, and with more time, he could grow up and develop into at least a decent starter and the Jets could get something of value for him. Right now, they couldn't get anything. He's still under his rookie contract and cheap. There is NO valid reason to cut bait with him yet.
Yeah pull it up. Look I get people like you need to call people names on a message board because your the type who I bet was beat up a lot. So it makes you feel so good to call someone names on here. I'll bet as you're typing you have ur chest stuck out like your so bad? I would also bet when you're face to face with somebody and you disagree with them you don't call them names. No I'm not suggesting we meet face to face just to make that clear.
