oh Brady is being reasonable now?? NOW? He cheats. tries to destroy evidence of his cheating, does not cooperate with the investigation. makes a mockery of the investigation publicly. refuses to accept punishment for his cheating to the degree where he takes it to freakin federal court... but now he's being reasonable, right? because he'll accept some punishment so long as they don't call him a cheater, even though he did cheat. what a reasonable guy. I mean, how unreasonable for the NFL to have some standards on cheating in their league.
someone should tell that judge that perhaps the Wells Report is a bit light on Brady because he, umm, REFUSED TO COOPERATE with it
Yea, that's the reason the Well's report has no concrete evidence implicating Brady. Do you really think the Judge is that stupid?
No suspension. Goodell fired. Bank it. The judge almost BEGGED the NFL to take any kind of face-saving exit they could today- before they force him to have to slap them down like the morons they are.
Understandable that Pats fans would criticize the wells report, with remarks like 'no concrete evidence'. But the fact is the investigation and report were conducted thoroughly and the findings are credible. 9 Q. And you would agree with me the fact that 10 there were these unknowns is because there weren't 11 these procedures to provide that information? 12 Otherwise they would be certain, right? 13 A. That is -- that is absolutely correct. I 14 mean, sometimes people break procedures, but you are 15 right, I would have had data. 16 Look, all of the things you said in terms of 17 your opening statement that we had unknowns, we were 18 aware of and we considered and we recognized that 19 one of the options was maybe you had so many 20 unknowns that you would have to say it's 21 inconclusive. 22 But we reached a different ruling and we 23 reached it in great part because those gauges did 24 work. See, look, the biggest thing when we started, 25 we wanted to know did the gauges work? When I say 1 did the gauges work, that so-called logo gauge that 2 reads .3 to .4, it was tested hundreds of times. 3 So you really know where it was. It wasn't 4 an erratic gauge. If you had a gauge that some days 5 read .7 over and other days it read .2 and other 6 days it read below, then you couldn't base anything 7 because that gauge was bouncing around. 8 But because the logo gauge was consistently 9 .3 to .4 over, and because the non-logo gauge was 10 almost perfectly calibrated, we knew we had good 11 gauges and that gave us the ability to do scientific 12 analysis and make conclusions that we felt were 13 reliable. 14 And one of the things we say in the report is 15 that the scientific analysis does not prove with, 16 quote, "absolute certainty" whether there was 17 tampering or not tampering. But the data ultimately 18 was sufficiently reliable that we felt comfortable 19 when we looked at the evidence in its totality. 20 And the totality of the evidence involved not 21 just the science. It involved Jim McNally calling 22 himself the deflator and saying he had not gone to 23 ESPN yet. And it involved the text message where 24 Mr. Jastremski says he talked to Mr. Brady. And 25 there's a reference to McNally must have a lot of 1 stress getting them done. 2 If those text messages did not exist, and all 3 we had was a break in protocol and he goes into the 4 bathroom and just the science, the result might very 5 well be totally different. But when you combine the 6 break in protocol, going into the bathroom, the text 7 messages and the science, we felt comfortable 8 reaching a judgment. 9 It was a totality of all of the evidence 10 analysis that gave us comfort in deciding it was 11 more probable than not. We looked at all of the 12 evidence together. And that's what juries do all 13 the time. 14 In most jury cases, each side will have an 15 expert. One expert will say X happened to a 16 reasonable degree of scientific certainty. The 17 other side will say, well, my expert says Y happened 18 to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty. 19 The jurors sit there and they make a judgment 20 about not just the science, but the whole case. And 21 the judge gives them the discretion as long as it's 22 not so unreliable that you can't make decisions. 23 And that's what we did in this case. And that's why 24 we reached the conclusions that we did and we think 25 the conclusions are right and we think they are 1 reasonable. 2 Q. And I think you referred to yourself as the 3 finder of fact and the judge. Can you explain what 4 you meant by that when you say "judge" or you made a 5 ruling. 6 A. Yeah. Look, my job was to investigate the 7 facts and then render a personal opinion. That's 8 what it is. It is an opinion. When a jury renders 9 a verdict, it's their opinion. My job, and it's my 10 team. This decision, the rulings in the report, 11 though they call it the Wells report, were unanimous 12 for myself and Mr. Reisner and Brad Karp, the 13 partners on the team. 14 This was our collective judgment and our 15 personal opinion based on the standard of proof. 16 And the standard of proof in an NFL investigation of 17 this kind is the preponderance of the evidence. I 18 mean, I have caught criticism because I used the 19 words "more probable than not." And people act 20 like, is that wishy-washy? 21 It's not wishy-washy. That's the standard of 22 proof that applies to most civil cases in the United 23 States. And the NFL has made a decision to adopt 24 that standard. In terms of the levels of proof, 25 there are three levels. The highest is beyond a 1 reasonable doubt. The middle one is clear and 2 convincing, which applies in fraud cases. 3 But the predominant standard in most civil 4 jury trials in the United States is preponderance of 5 the evidence, which means more probable than not. 6 And when I wrote my conclusions in terms of 7 "more probable than not," I did it very 8 purposefully, because I did not want any readers to 9 think that I had perhaps made a finding of liability 10 beyond a reasonable doubt or by clear and convincing 11 evidence. 12 I wanted people to know this was the standard 13 under the NFL rules and that's the standard I was 14 making my ruling on. So I was doing it so people 15 wouldn't get confused and think I had used some 16 higher, higher standard. 4 Q. If you would look at NFL Exhibit 96, this is 5 a June 18, 2015 letter sent to Commissioner Goodell 6 by Mr. Yee. I just want to draw your attention. In 7 this letter, they talk about information that was 8 now being provided regarding Mr. Brady's phone. 9 And it says in the second paragraph, "Please 10 note that in producing the cell phone and e-mail 11 information, we have followed, in fact, we have gone 12 further than the specific requests set forth in 13 Wells's original electronic data request of February 14 28th made to us." 15 Do you agree with that statement, Mr. Wells? 16 A. Well, I know, it is my understanding, I want 17 to qualify, I haven't studied this, but it is my 18 understanding that they didn't do any searches for 19 the text messages for people other than Jastremski, 20 Schoenfeld and McNally. So they didn't do that 21 first big bucket I wanted that would have touched 22 all people in terms of the search terms. 23 And in terms of the text messages that they 24 produced, to my understanding, and I didn't look 25 through every page because the thing is real thick, 1 like, 1,500 pages or something, there is no text 2 message -- there's not one content. When I say a 3 text message, I mean what did somebody say? 4 They have phone bills that say on X date 5 there was a text message, but there is no content. 6 So that's like looking at a running log that said 7 you sent an e-mail but you don't have the content. 8 So I was looking for the content. 9 Though, if Mr. Yee had come in and explained 10 it to me -- look, I was trying to work with them. 11 And so if he had explained, you know, we threw the 12 phones away or whatever, you know, we would have 13 talked about it. I did not want him in the position 14 of not cooperating. I didn't want it for him. I 15 didn't want it for me. 16 Not only did it hurt him in terms of how we 17 evaluated his credibility, but it put us in a hell 18 of a spot because you have a person with this 19 exemplary record and has done all these good things 20 that people are saying, and yet they are conducting 21 themselves in a fashion that suggests they are 22 hiding something and may be guilty and not being 23 forthcoming. 24 So it was really hard to give them credit for 25 the good stuff when he's basically looking you in 1 the face and saying, I'm not going to give you my 2 phone. 3 But like I said, it not only hurt Mr. Brady, 4 it hurt the investigation because it put us in a 5 position we didn't want to be in because we wanted 6 to be able to listen to him and evaluate his 7 credibility without this cloud. That's why I kept 8 saying, you know, reconsider. Give me -- I will 9 take your word for it.
That's perhaps why this hard line by NFL. THey know BB must know, he knows what color feces his players move on He all of a sudden goes quiet......some of those destroyed texts must have been to a covert BB phone Belichick knows about inflation and physics, he told us twice, the second time he said he never knew about it before..... as a classic evil witted liar does.... He learned a lot in is january ramblings but he forwarded that book before the rule changes. January 2015: Texture and feel, yes....pressure......um i don't know what this is - the pressure tests he stated the team did were debunked due to the time relative to the raising of equilibrium higher and back to original state. Wells report mentioned 30 minutes was the time the ball to get back to starting state. 2.5 hours pass before delivery and testing by officials. 2005: Hey, it's that BB http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/319729.Football_Physics this author worked with Bill and Ernie adams back in their college days at Andover so he knows more than he's proclaimed in Jan. In this book there are comments (you can find them back several pages) on Gay's thoughts on if an inflated football offered an advantage. Read the second page of forward where Bill knows about how a ball will bounce based on it's shape......hmmm a less inflated ball will not produce a more protacted bounce Take this face value, they're a lying cheating organization.
Could you please point out where in the Wells report or anywhere else in this Witchhuntgate where Brady ever instructed the idiot ball boys to deflate balls below the legal limit (and to do so after the refs inspected them)?
1) Preponderance of evidence 2) Failure to cooperate 3) Destruction of evidence Tom Brady knew....HE KNEW....and now he is even willing to accept some suspension lol what a saint.
i polled some work clients in a meeting, i asked is Brady guilty? Everyone said Yes. His appearance of lying when he spoke, his actions of non co-operation, the phone things, wanting to be totally exonerated and this court sham...... Arrogance
I love how this random Steelers fan is leading the circle jerk because he knows they’re going to get their shit pushed in on Sept 10th if Brady plays. LOL, if you can’t beat them, suspend them!
He might get his suspension reduced or eliminated, but he will always be a cheater to everyone except Patriot fans. His accomplishments and rings are all tainted shit brown. Have fun defending him for the rest of your life, because you will ALWAYS be in the minority of people who thinks hes clean.
we have missing texts from other Patriot coaches from toms damaged phone. Brady is the fall guy for his coach Can't you see that your golden boy is coward black and blue?
You think we're getting our shit pushed in? Who's defending the secondary little minion? I want Brady to play to make the ass kicking even more sweet
You really have an absolutely unhealthy thing going on here. And the work meeting poll that you took, that was such a lob to smack out of the park I'd rather just leave it there to imagine all of the possibilities.
It's a $25K fine in the rule book. The team already paid $1 million (40x they amount they should have) and lost a 1st round pick (thanks Kraft). Oh, and I love how you know he is willing to accept a game because all of these leaked reports have been so accurate up to this point.
