OMG Absolute and utter rubbish. I know you're young, but come on. Do some research before you make a statement like this on an internet board. It's patently false and totally stupid.
Bryce Petty is the answer to the question: do the Jets have the patience to groom a young QB without any expectations of immediate returns? We don't know if that answer is yes or no at this point.
I'd like to see Petty in week 10 if we're out of it say 4-6, 3-7ish. At that point he's no longer a rookie, and on the job training would be good. Much like the Giants did with Eli. Sure Petty is not a manning, but I think we can all agree his IQ is higher.
Eli Manning came out of a pro set. He was the #1 overall pick. Bryce Petty came out of the spread and he's a 4th round pick. This is what I mean about patience. There's no reason at all to believe that Bryce Petty is going to be a good QB at this point. He's raw and the game is whizzing by him at light speed. In a year or two after he's had some time to adjust he'll be more grounded in how the offense works in the NFL and on the Jets in particular. He'll have far fewer butterflies running around in his stomach on the field. He'll see things routinely that he doesn't even know exist at this point in his career. Throwing Petty to the wolves for a few games at the end of the season is just going to begin the fan disenchantment process as Petty blows chunks. Even if he plays moderately well all that will do is start the hype wagon in full gear and then we'll have the fan relapse when he comes back down to earth early next season. The Jets should just give him time unless injuries force their hand. Even then they should probably do just about everything they can to keep Petty off the field this year. He's not ready and no amount of wishful thinking is likely to change that. When he's ready, if that happens, we'll know it. The Packers let a Hall of Fame QB go after three seasons because they *knew* Aaron Rodgers was ready after watching the action for 48 games. They got the best QB in football out of that exchange and out of their patience in not rushing the young guy when they didn't have too.
I agree with the overall gist of your post that we should be patient with Petty and that he shouldn't even see the field this year, unless it's at the end of some blowouts late in the year, even then I might be hesitant to put him on the field. I do disagree with your bolded statement. I think there's every reason to believe that he WILL be a good QB. Even as raw as he is, he made a respectable showing last week. Look back at my other post in this thread. He has everything a QB needs to be successful except experience in this particular offense. That doesn't mean he'll be ready to go tomorrow. I think he needs to sit for at least a year, maybe 2, but doubt that he even has to sit 2. If he's anywhere near as intelligent, a hard worker, and talented as I've read he is, I think he'll be ready to play next year. I think the only reason Rodgers sat for 3 years was because the Packers had Favre. If they had dumped Favre a year earlier, the media and Packers fans would have exploded. Rodgers needed to sit for one year, maybe two, but I don't think he needed to sit for 3. With Petty already being 24, he doesn't need to sit for 3 years, and hopefully not 2.
I really like Petty and this whole he got drafted in the 4th round so he must be no good is absurd.....the kid showed a lot of positives in his first preseason game.....he will only get better. I think we have our qb of the future, just need to give him time until the game slows down for him
Well, didn't Jameis have a tough start last night. Petty if he gets a chance might be ok. I just don't want him to learn on the job and lose games. They won't PS him this year because he'll probably be picked up by another team. Unless they decide to take a chance if a guy like Matt Barkley is available.
0.0% chance they cut him with hopes that he will land on the PS even if they go after Barkley. The front office traded up to get him, they aren't going to risk losing him. Especially considering the quotes about his development and how the process will work. He will be on the 53-man guaranteed. If he isn't, I'll sport an avatar of your choice.
They're NOT going to waive Petty and try to put him on the PS for any jag veteran, especially Barkley. Get real.
Petty's ceiling is to be another Matt Simms...If the rest of you guys want to have false hope he'll ever be an NFL starter go ahead
Tony Romo was undrafted and didn't play a down in the NFL till he was 26...he wasn't exactly 'ready from day one' And if anything playing guys from day one has hurt us more than helped. Sanchez I think could have been better than he was if he wasn't rushed into playing from day one after only one year of college. Geno shouldn't have been playing from day one either, the Air Raid system had little resemblance to a normal NFL offense. Neither should Petty...he NEEDS to sit a year at least. The offense he played in college is so much different than the NFL.
I don't agree nor disagree with this. This is similar to the point I was trying to make. Tons of quarterbacks with the necessary tools come out of a successful college career and get picked by teams. A lot of them never "get it" and turn into the QBs their respective fan bases hope they will. Instead, they become stopgaps and backups that float around the league. Whenever your team drafts a QB, no matter your current situation at the position, you usually say "okay cool, maybe he can develop into our QB of the future as he learns behind our current QB." This is rarely the case. I do like the optimism from the board though with the topic. That's been rare for years now around here. I like Petty and how he looks. I like the high hopes, but I also understand the occasional pessimism about what you guys are saying. It's nowhere near sure that he'll turn into a solid starting QB, let alone a franchise QB. It's also not sure that he's not gonna turn out to much. We just have to wait and see.
First you say this then you agree with a guy who based his opinion of Petty off one preseason game. You don't see the issues here?
OK Eli's football IQ is higher. I meant Intelligent Quotient in the literal sense. If after week 10 the season is a lost cause, and Petty has shown an iota of improvement, I think on the job training would be appropriate. Further, this is New York with the highest ticket prices in the country. We should as fans be clamoring to see what we have. Should we boo him, no. But I want to see what he's got after studying the playbook for 5 months. Don't compare the situation to Aaron Rodgers. He had a hall of famer ahead of him. We have Fitz, a great mentor, by a far cry from favre.
Look of a QB with the physical tools? What the hell is that shit? If you are going to knock on Petty, knock on the fact that he's a spread QB that has no clue how to run a pro-style offense, that's all mental. He has ALL of the physical tools you want in a QB.
What are your thoughts as to why these QBs never develop? I think it is for a variety of reasons. I think that some peaked their talent level in college, and just don't have any ceiling or ability to elevate their game. With others, I think they have the physical talent, but not the right mental/emotional makeup. Perhaps their work ethic is lacking, or they can't stop being a gunslinger, maybe they have vision problems seeing the field clearly or going through their progressions. With others, I think they are picked by teams where the systems don't fit their skill sets, the offensive philosophies of the OC and/or HC don't mesh with what the QB likes to do, feels comfortable doing, or they don't receive good coaching, or the coach's teaching style and the QB's way of learning don't mesh. With still others, I think their talents are wasted on teams with bad OLs. One QB that immediately comes to mind is David Carr. He took such a pounding his first couple of years in the league and had little talent to work with, that I think it screwed with his confidence/mind.
IMO it doesn't matter that we don't have a HOFer ahead of him, if he's not ready he shouldn't see the field. The HC shouldn't be influenced by what fans want. Fans can be impatient, dumb and not understand the ramifications/potential consequenes of that for which they're asking. You know as well as I that as stupid as fans can be that if he came in and didn't play well in a couple of starts, the fans would start booing him and calling him a bust. What you or I want is irrelevant. Bowles should ONLY be concerned with what is best for Petty, and that is what's best for the Jets.
