Geno out with broken jaw. Wow. IKE released after altercation.

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Good question. I think it's more than just immaturity, but not sure what else may be involved. My best guess is that it's a sense of entitlement and of thinking he's better than he actually is. Wasn't it last year when he was so awful on the field that he claimed in the media that he thought he was an All Pro level QB or one of the best QBs or something equally absurd? The way athletes (especially QBs) get pampered, coddled, passed along, all their mistakes overlooked, etc., certainly could do a number on a young man's head, and make him not look at things in a "real world" way. I know nothing of his childhood, but maybe he was a spoiled brat at home. He seems to be lacking in humility and true character, but I'm just guessing.
     
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  2. FlaJet

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    Geno is likely a very nice guy who just stepped into doodoo. It would have been better if he was never pressed into being a starting QB so soon. But it is what is. So far he has shown very little if any leadership and maturity. His brashness rubs many fans the wrong way when it is not backed up. As for (I also know he cussed out a fan but so did his head coach at the time) a rookie can't or shouldn't do that, especially to the home town fans. The HC can even though it is also wrong beside I think is was Rex cussing out dullfin fans and not his home team fans. Geno is working to get a one way ticket out of the Jets. JMO
     
  3. NYJalltheway

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    He's done here, I don't see him getting that locker room back unless he pulls some black magic shit and gets us to the superbowl.

     
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  5. DaBallhawk

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    Joe Beningo said on WFAN that Rex gave IK the 600 Geno owed him when he joined the Bills.
     
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    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    That's something else. Was it serious, and not a joke? This is such an annoying situation.
     
  7. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    Personally I haven't listened to the clip, somebody on another message board mentioned it. But I wouldn't put it past Rex.
     
  8. NYJalltheway

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    Well he also apparently almost tried trading for geno too so..
     
  9. Cman68

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    What you don't read is the "outpouring of support" for Geno Smith from his teammates. At best, its been lukewarm and almost forced by the team. Almost a "if you got nothing good to say, don't say shit" and for the most part, nobody is saying shit. Bowles I think may have gotten the story wrong as he wasn't a witness to the actual punch. Those that were said Geno brought it on himself. Geno talked shit, tried to blowoff a rather muscle bound teammate, and got his jaw broke. Somehow I knew Rex was gonna give IK the cash. You just had to see that one coming too just to rub it in Geno's face.

    Like DB said, unless Geno comes back doing his best impression of Aaron Rodgers, he's done in that lockerroom and most likely, done here as well. If that's the case, I have a feeling you'll be able to count the guys missing Geno on one hand.
     
  10. NYJFan10

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    Sadly the one hand might include Marshall cause HE's been the one pumping Geno the most...but of course he's probably known him the least amount of time of anyone.
     
  11. The Waterboy

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    It does look like he has already lost the locker room and not sure he is going to have that chance to win it back. Maybe the best chance he has of making it in the league is if they can find another team with a young QB that also got off to a bad start and the teams make a straight up swap.
    I know most will say no one would trade for him but there are other teams who's fan base say the same thing about their QB who did not work out after 2-3 years and maybe could use a change of scenery. Long shot I know but Glennon, Manuel, Davis or some other QB who is likely going to be riding the pine. Would likely have to add something to the deal for Glennon but a 7th and Smith would be worth it I think.
    Then they have Fitz start while the other two basically audition for next year, unless one steps up quick and takes the QB1 position from Fitz.
     
  12. JStokes

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    I think eventually we are going to hear IK's side of the story.

    The Jets players are under a gag order but IK and his new Bills teammates aren't.

    I'm sure he's already told them what happened so it's just a matter of time.

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    Thanks IK for taking a mulligan for the team. See ya Geno, ya little bitch.
     
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    The Bucs aren't going to give up Glennon at this point. He's on a cheap 3rd round deal with a couple of years left on it and it's nice to have him around to give them another option if they feel like they need to pull Winston for a series, or a quarter or even a start to make a point.
     
  17. DaBallhawk

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    This is how things go sometimes. IK went from rags to riches by breaking Geno's jaw. Good piece in the NY Times now, with more details. Again, this is not how a leader carries himself. This is not how you treat people. Lack of respect, lack of leadership, like I said from the get go.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/s...ali-lets-a-dispute-get-the-better-of-him.html

    He recruited several high school and college teammates as counselors for the camp, including some who play in the N.F.L., and attendance picked up at the prospect that an N.F.L. starting quarterback, Geno Smith of the Jets, would coach, too. But to Enemkpali’s rising agitation and embarrassment, friends said, Smith was missing. Smith had promised to come — his image was featured prominently on fliers advertising the camp, and his name was emblazoned on the back of T-shirts given to campers — but he backed out, friends of Enemkpali heard later, to attend a friend’s funeral. Smith never explained that he would not show, leaving Enemkpali to pay for $600 in airfare and limousine fees. For the next month, Enemkpali, 24, stewed as Smith failed to reimburse him, enduring jokes from teammates about being stiffed, until his frustration boiled over Tuesday in a locker-room confrontation. The episode has cast into doubt a career of only six games — as if his football fortunes, like those of legions of low-round draft picks scrapping to make N.F.L. teams this summer, were not tenuous enough.

    The lure of having their children coached by an N.F.L. quarterback had attracted parents from around central Texas, and when Smith did not show, some grumbled about it. “His word is gold,” Hurtado said of Enemkpali. “And I think that’s what hurts him so much. He got played for a punk, for lack of a better word, and on top of that, he looked bad to his community — like he didn’t come through with Geno Smith, like it was his fault.” It is unclear how often he asked Smith to reimburse him, but the longer Smith went without paying, the more disrespected Enemkpali felt, friends said. It became a joke among some players on the Jets, who would ask Enemkpali if Smith had paid him back yet. The only details of the fight have come from the Jets’ coach, Todd Bowles, who said that Enemkpali “sucker-punched” Smith. Bowles characterized the spat as “very childish” but, citing a promise he made to both players, did not reveal the cause. No one who witnessed the confrontation has spoken publicly about it. Lucas said he was told that Smith put his finger in his Enemkpali’s face. That is when Enemkpali belted him.
     
  18. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    This whole Geno thing disgusts me. You're depending on your team to protect you, but, outside the white lines you don't give a dam about them.

    Geno is an idiot. If he never throws another pass with the green and white I'd be fine with it.
     
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  19. The Waterboy

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    There are so many trades that have gone through over the years that were much less likely. I also did not confine it to just Glennon so to key on that as if it was the main premise of my post is pretty off the mark. The point was trade him once he is healthy, or before if someone would, for another QB that maybe needs a fresh start also.
    Exploring that option, if the coaching staff feels he will not be able to lead the Jets, is the better option than just cutting him.
     
  20. FlaJet

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    I said this earlier in this thread. (wait until this whole story breaks out)
     

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