The QB Position - Looking Ahead

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I know this decision doesn't have to be made yet, but I think this incident might have people thinking a little differently right now than they would in 2-3 months, and I'm curious how everyone would handle the following three scenarios if you were the Jets' GM.

    The first scenario is this, let's say that Fitz plays at about the same level Geno has the last two years or perhaps a little better. Geno comes back gets a chance to play, but struggles, has obviously regressed due to his physical condition and not being able to practice, and he doesn't seem to have learned much from this incident. They know that they have Petty in the wings, but he's raw. Let's say they've determined that he probably needs to sit for another year but will let him compete for the starting spot. How would you address the QB position during the offseason? Would you cut Geno? Would you stick with Fitz as the starter? Would you look to bring in another vet to compete with Fitz for the starting spot? Would you draft a QB in the 1st round if there was one you liked?

    The second scenario is that Fitz plays at about the same level Geno has the last two years or perhaps a little better. Geno comes back, Fitz gets injured, and Geno plays and his play picks up where he left off in TC, showing much better decision making, reads and accuracy, but he doesn't seem to have learned anything from the incident and is still smug and doesn't think he did anything wrong. The players tolerate Geno because he plays well, but really don't like and support him. Petty still needs to sit for this season and possibly next. Would you keep Geno because he played well and hope that in time he would grow up and his teammates come to like and support him more? If so, would he keep the starting QB job, or would it be a competition between Fitz and he? If a competition, would you include Petty? If Petty still looked a little lost when the draft rolled around, and a QB you liked dropped to the Jets, would you take him? Would you hope that Geno grows up and that Petty developed enough to at least be a solid backup, if not ready to compete for the starting job by 2017 and not take the QB? If you opted to draft the QB, would you keep 4, or get rid of one of Geno, Fitz or Petty?

    The third scenario is that Fitz plays very well this season and leads us to the playoffs, but we lose the playoff game. When Geno comes back, he seems humbled, and to have learned from the incident. He looks pretty good in practice. Petty still looks like he probably needs to sit next year as well. What would you do? Would you stick with Fitz as the starter? Would you keep Geno? Would you let there be a true QB competition? If so, would you include Petty in that competition or just plan on sitting him for another year?
     
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  2. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    if Fitz or whoever the QB is plays well in Geno's absence, that QB should keep playing until that changes.
     
  3. 101GangGreen101

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    Scenario 1 - I draft my QB; Depth chart includes Rook, Geno and Petty.
    Scenario 2 - Trade Geno Smith and draft a QB. I can't have a QB that no one RESPECTS in the LR.
    Scenario 3 - Keep the current situation of QBs - Geno / Fitz / Petty

    Scenario 3 obviously puts us out of contention for a QB in the first round. Jets have to ride the hot hand though, if Fitz is doing OK - Fitz will stay in and Geno will be 2nd. Under no circumstance should Petty see the field.
     
  4. BIGREX

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  5. PickSix

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    Since we're looking ahead, it's probably important that Petty gets his learning curve in this year, is given the chance to compete next year, and at the very least becomes the starter mid-season, with an eye towards him being named the starter in camp in 2017. I'm not sure of all of the contract ramifications, but as good as the roster looks now outside of QB, nothing is forever. Contracts are going to have to be re-worked at some point. Revis's guaranteed money is only through 2017, and unless he has a total change in character, there's no way he's coming back in 2018 for $10million. If Petty can be elevated withing the next season and a half, at least it raises some hope that people want to stay around a little longer.
     
  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Scenario 1, the only returning qb is petty. Get another retread and draft another qb and spin the carousel again
    scenario 2, geno and petty are back, draft another project and grab another retread. Hope petty secures qb2 and keep a watchful eye on geno
    scenario 3 i keep the 3 qbs and fitz job to lose
     
  7. SOJAZ

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    Bowles already said if Fitz is playing well he will stay....
     
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  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And isn't that exactly what Bowles said the day it happened?
     
  9. Don

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    The real question should be who is this teams qb next year. Smith will probably be gone and Fitzpatrick can't have much time left either so is it Petty and shouldn't we be getting him as much work as possible or is it somebody that isn't even on the team right now?
     
  10. APK 8

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    You can't automatically give Petty a shot at starting next year. He has to show something to the coaches in practice to warrant that kind of leap. If Petty doesn't show anymore than Matt Simms or Greg McIlroy did, the Jets have to be in the market for e legitimate starter next off season.
     
  11. NYJetsO12

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    Idzik screwed us up not getting a decent QB and counted dollars instead.

    I dont know about Petty yet but going forward in Mac I trust.
     
  12. PickSix

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    If he's still on the roster, sure you can. All positions are open to competition.
     
  13. 4jetfans

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    We have not played a single pre-season game and we are talking about next year already I love being a Jets Fan
     
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  14. Don

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    We should get our first peek tonight.
     
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    There are no legitimate starters on the market. Teams don't let those players go. If fitz or geno or petty don't show they can be a starter for the foreseeable future we will be signing another retread and drafting another qb. Thats the nature of the beast
     
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  16. Don

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    It's a pretty legitimate question when there is no incumbent.
     
  17. No Fly Zone

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    Let's see if Fitz is even capable of running the team. I think his bad TC is due to the fact he's not healthy. The question is where is he in his recovery? Is he 50%, 75%, 85%? How long will it take for him to fully recover? Tonight's game is meaningless for Fitz, he won't be in long enough to judge anything. Pre-season game 3 (as usual) is where I want to see him perform.

    The FA list next year isn't great. If you assume Eli re-signs with the Giants then Philp Rivers is by far the best option in the FA market. So, given that.

    Option 1 - Either GeNO or Fitz take the job and never look back

    Option 2 - Sign Rivers and either geNo or Fitz is the #2.

    Option 3 - Find someone off the scrap heap and and try to secure a better option by trading a DL and a pick(s) for a quality QB.
     
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  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And you bring up a good point, do we even have enough healthy QBs to play this game? I thought Fitzpatrick was supposed to miss most of camp from a participation viewpoint, is he now being pushed? Is Petty going to play the whole game? I don't even know the name of the last guy up.
     
  19. BIGREX

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    Not sure he can have smiths Number :)
     

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