This was his fiance, not some crazy woman off the streets. I might agree with you if a stranger did this to him, since you wouldn't know of they had a weapon. But there were other ways to diffuse this situation without punching her in the face. He could of easily restrained her in the elevator, or kept her at a distance with his hand out. He stiff arms 250 lb linebackers, he could have kept a petite woman at bay. And don't act like Ray Rice was a saint and she randomly attacked him. We don't know what preceded this, but they were both drunk, arguing, and getting physical with each other.
This is some funny shit right here. Wow. This wasn't some stranger on the street or in a bar. It was his fiancé, mother of his child and future wife. Holy shit. Classic case of self defense? Classic case of indefensible violent spousal battery. _
I know you didn't mean it to be but he was actually acting a lot more like your second example in your statement, he was driving a 5379 lb. vehicle at over 140 MPH, after having just smoked and I wouldn't be surprised if they ditched the rest of the drugs, he did have a child in the car while doing that 140 MPH, he did lose control of the vehicle sliding the rear end into oncoming traffic and he did have a gun in the vehicle which he reached for as the officer was ordering them out of the car. This after just getting suspended and losing 1/4 of his entire pay for the year. That is a hell of a lot more than getting arrested once for speeding
Being related to someone (or in a relationship) does not give them carte blanche to physically attacking you when they feel like it ... and it certainly does not preclude you from preventing such an attack if one occurs. I'm a former police officer and a current defense attorney. Small women hurt (and injure) big men all the time - and I have seen it happen many, many times including seeing it happen to trained law enforcement personnel. You say "he could of easily restrained her". I say "maybe, but maybe not" and "he has no obligation - legal or moral - to risk his own safety to try and restrain her." In legal terms, he perceived a threat and ended that threat as quickly as possible. He didn't "beat" her or "savagely attack" or any other loaded set of buzzwords. Letting a woman hit you while you sit there and take it does not make you a man; it makes you an idiot. She hit him first, he slapped her back (open hand) and then created as much distance as he could between them. She chose to start ... and then continue ... the altercation. But you don't have to accept my opinion on the matter - there is a reason there was no prosecution, no plea bargain, no nothing. The prosecutor offered him a plea bargain, Rice said "no" and then a month later the prosecutor gave up and agreed to let him go to a diversionary program (counseling) in return for dropping the charges. There's a reason he did this ... he would lose at trial and he knew it.
Why are you telling someone else what to do, "mind your fucking business when it comes to the lives of others. It is not your burden or any of your business." It's a football message board for the NY Jets where, surprise, people talk about the NY Jets. What do you want them to talk about? The prevalence of male on male rape in U.S. prisons?
It was only a few weeks ago, they very well could already have another test pending at the lab, they could just order another test. In fact I am pretty sure now that this came out they will order another test any day.
From the video we see Ray Rice start it outside the elevator by motioning his head towards her; we can presume he either spit on her or said something vulgar - either way the quick head motion was an act of aggression. She responded by lightly slapping him, more of a "get out of my face" move. Then Ray Rice gets in her face in the elevator, she tries to push him back, he punches her once. She looks stunned, walks towards him, and then he knocks her out. If that wasn't a savage attack, then nothing is. But I'm getting the feeling you just like arguing and being a contrarian on this matter. We all know the laws and legality of the situation, but you sound foolish arguing that Ray Rice's actions were justified. You're painting him as a saint who was just minding his own business when she came at him, which wasn't the case.
Not a "saint" - that's a strawman. But he was justified; legally and morally. And I said the exact same thing when the Rice video came out - you can check with the search function if you care.
Well you've been throwing out red herrings in every post, you got caught up in an anecdotal fallacy last post, and you just used the moralistic fallacy....but who's counting right?
Anecdote? Yup. Fallacy? Nope. Nothing false about my anecdote. I simply stated that women injure men all the time and men who sit there and take it are idiots (as would a women if she sat there and let someone attack her if she could avoid or prevent it). You don't like self-defense law; I get it. But just because you don't like it doesn't make it invalid.
All that had to happen for our perception of him to change dramatically was for somebody to get hurt, let alone killed, during the chase. He was very lucky that didn't happen because he'd be going to jail if it had and his NFL career would have been over. I'm thinking it's 50/50 his career is over anyway. He doesn't strike me like the kind of guy who is going to learn enough from this to avoid getting caught having taken a drink on the plane so to speak. Josh Gordon is fighting for his career right now because all the speed bumps the NFL put in front of him didn't slow him down. Richardson just hit the first speed bump at 140 MPH.
50/50? Seriously? Players have actually killed others, dogs, and far worse and still had careers. Hell one wasn't even good and he came back. Sent from my VK700 using Tapatalk
Brad, please. Richardson didn't "surrender" he was chased down by police, who according to some reports approached with guns drawn. The fact that no one was hurt, falls more on luck, he was driving 140 mph at night on public roads evading the police. I have no issue with him carring a gun for protection, but reports say he was handling the weapon as police approached (stuffing it under the floor mat). That action rarely ends well late night, after a chase. I don't like the "boys will be boys" defense that some are offering up as an excuse for his behavior. Or the "nothing bad happened" excuse. Nothing bad happens to most drunk drivers, but we don't offer a free pass when they are caught. Saying it's idiotic behavior doesn't make it any less criminal behavior. No, it's not murder, it's not bank robbery, but it's not a parking ticket or failing a drug test. It's pretty serious shit... or should be.
I was hoping the anonymous TMZ quotes would disappear with Rex. Sounds like the locker room isn't too fond of Sheldon. http://t.co/gjFcfBfSmR
Too earlier to tell. For every Josh Gordon, there is a Cris Carter. Shelden is at a crossroads and needs to make some tough personal decisions.
Just stop while you're behind. How many NFL players were convicted of felonies last year? How many NFL players devote their time to community service, start centers and camps for children, visit sick children in hospitals and many other acts of altruism? Don't let the actions of a few lead to stereotyping.
