{quote] Turner County Sheriff Andy Hester was strongly supportive of Mr Rogers’ decision to pull his gun and fire on Burton. Imagine getting that in the Northeast...
Throwing red herrings makes your argument stink. Historically there are approximately 100 firearm homicides for each arson homicide annually. Why are you afraid of my question? Houser was denied a gun permit but someone sold him a gun anyway - you have no problem with that?
just another piece of shit who was supposed to be on psycho meds who passed a federal (they save us from everything, right?) background check and shot up a gun free zone http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/us/louisiana-theater-shooting/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...one-bans-firearms-for-customers-with-permits/
About your first point: If you have done nothing wrong, you can legally buy a gun as you aren't flagged...Be nice if these losers shot themselves first. There are tons of angry folks like him around. This nut bought his gun in Feb of 2014 so he wanted 17 months to shoot up a theater. About your second point: No offense, but I don't trust an ordinary person with a gun. This would inflict more harm as these ordinary folks definitely aren't accurate with a gun (especially in a dark area). That's what we need, people who think they are cops (who aren't even accurate themselves with a gun). This is the new America. Mass shooting will be a form of death, in addition to many others.
It's not even so much that someone else with a gun would have helped. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. It's just that these fuckers tend to target "gun free zones". I don't know the psychology of these assholes but it sure seems like they see gun free zones as safe places to go shoot up. There's no evidence to support the (reasonable) fear that legal concealed carriers would cause more damage btw. Short of eliminating every gun in existence I don't know what can realistically stop this sort of shit. It's awful. Personally I'd rather have a fighting chance if I ever encounter one of these scumbags, so I stay prepared. I carry, I practice, I read. People always talk about "common sense gun control" but never provide details as to what the fuck that means. It's nice to parrot and all but let's hear some realistic solutions.
I'm not suggesting arming everyone is a good solution, maybe not - probably not, but do you think for a second that guy would have tried this if he thought every adult in the theater was carrying? Just think about it from another angle. Maybe an approach is to somehow incentize responsible citizens to regularly train and carry. Maybe offer discounts or free fishing and hunting licenses. Businesses could be encouraged to offer discounts as well. The NRA could help fund and train. I imagine a sign welcoming "responsible aremed citizens united" or whatever you want to call it would be more effective than a no guns allowed sign. businesses with theses signs could offer discounts.
But if Georgia declined him a permit, why was it okay in Alabama for him to have one? Turns out it wasn't. The system stinks.
he had to pass the federal background check to purchase the gun. do you have a suggestion or are you just here to scapegoat?
Yeah, the suggestion is the background check needs to be tightened if the State of Georgia recognized he was a danger to the community but the gun seller in Alabama didn't have that information for whatever reason. Did his institutionalization not get reported or was it deemed insignificant? What about the arson? Why wasn't that information in the federal database? Was the background check system working properly when he bought the gun? Do you not have a problem with this guy having the gun?
First off, your questions is insulting and not a constructive way to begin or have a conversation. If your goal is to throw out insults and/or be demeaning rather than discuss, just say so and I"ll move along. Of course no reasonable person is OK with a psycho killer having a gun. I see that he was arrested for arson, but haven't seen any confirmation of a conviction. From what I can gather, and the information available is limited at this point, the state of Georgia denied the permit due to the arrest and an open domestic violence complaint at the time - neither of which ever turned into convictions. So as I'm sure you're aware we are innocent until proven guilty in this country. The feds shouldn't be able to deny someone a right due to a closed case accusation with no conviction. I could see if it were an open case, yes. If there was a conviction and the feds weren't aware of it due to poor communications between systems, by all means fix that. As for the mental health stuff, I haven't read that he was institutionalized but I have read that police said whatever treatment he had received wouldn't have prevented him from getting a gun. Who knows what that means. The judge in the arson trial made him get a checkup from the neck up. Our mental health capabilities seem to be very much lacking. Maybe we'd be better off investing in the loonie bins that Reagan defunded and guys like this would be locked up by the state instead of free to roam about society with hopes they are taking the prescribed medications. The problem with that of course is that they suck at diagnosing and medicating these people so who's to make the decision of who gets locked up? Mental health and our inability to treat/diagnose it is one of the main reasons we see these things IMO.
