Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    I went back and looked at it, and the title of the article does not match the content of the article! It uses the word "conviction" in the title, which is false....again take a look at the actual cases, the write-ups in each case detailing the case. You will find cases settled out of court, dismissed, still pending, etc....again a propaganda piece by some website called "Ranker" lol. Give it up, this is getting old.
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    You suggested in your posts that a predominant number of Jewish students went to Catholic school.

    There are words for people who think things like this, articulate them overtly, and then lecture others on wisdom. "Moron" comes to mind.
     
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    But earlier in the thread you claimed that catholics were increasing in number, that was of course until I proved you wrong.

    If I remember correctly the percentage of catholics dropped by 3%, being the population increased from 180.7M in 1960 to 319M now that means that even with the drop in percentage of catholics, total catholics would have increased by about 24 million yet the number going to catholic schools dropped by 62%.
    A HUGE DROP, no rational person would claim "the actual number of students in Catholic schools is still pretty high".
     
  4. Truth4U2

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    WOW really, you just made that up, to say you twisted my words would be kind! I never said that "a predominant number of Jewish students go to Catholic School", what I actually said is that 16.9% of Catholic school students (with a link to actual facts, you should try that sometime) are non-Catholic, not Jewish. But again, when you can't win an argument against someone I guess you can always try twisting their words and outright lies, you might fool a few people. smh.
     
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    Please learn to read, point out just one that does not have a conviction or a guilty plea. You can't.
     
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    Nope. That's another lie, or maybe you just forgot what I said? Either way I never said that.
     
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    EVERY PRIEST LISTED IS A CONVICTED SEXUAL OFFENDER
     
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    ^^^^^^^
    So there you have it, what you just posted above proves that I was right.

    "More religious", I said nothing about the number of Catholics. So admit it, you were wrong ..... can you do that? Or do you think you are perfect and never make a mistake?
     
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    Nope. But if you post it in big, bold letters, someone might believe it. lol.

    You are the very definition of a troll. I am going to ignore you now, because I keep proving you wrong but you keep lying anyway. It's really getting old now.
     
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    WOW really you just posted "They probably went to Catholic school." Which you previously posted was the only place you could get a quality education.

    For someone who is very impressed with his own education, you're kind of stupid.
     
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    Jesuits suck. I prefer my Catholics to be Franciscan or Dominican
     
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    List just one priest from the list on that site that was not convicted of a sexual crime. You can't.
    As I stated, the only reason I can think that you would be so inclined to cover up for the pedophile priests that sexually abused children is that you yourself are a pedophile that sexually abused young children.
     
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    If you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, you will see that there is a lot about how a functional, just society operates. There is a lot of wisdom about how governments can assure the common good of their citizens. A lot of people don't realize this is in the Catechism....

    "The Common Good
    1905
    In keeping with the social nature of man, the good of each individual is necessarily related to the common good, which in turn can be defined only in reference to the human person:

    Do not live entirely isolated, having retreated into yourselves, as if you were already justified, but gather instead to seek the common good together.25

    1906 By common good is to be understood “the sum total of social conditions which allow people, either as groups or as individuals, to reach their fulfillment more fully and more easily.”26The common good concerns the life of all. It calls for prudence from each, and even more from those who exercise the office of authority. It consists of three essential elements:

    1907 First, the common good presupposes respect for the person as such. In the name of the common good, public authorities are bound to respect the fundamental and inalienable rights of the human person. Society should permit each of its members to fulfill his vocation. In particular, the common good resides in the conditions for the exercise of the natural freedoms indispensable for the development of the human vocation, such as “the right to act according to a sound norm of conscience and to safeguard... privacy, and rightful freedom also in matters of religion.”27"

    http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...techism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm
     
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    You are a joke. You claim that the country is so much more religious but now claim you never meant there were more catholics.
    Pretty sad is what you are.
     
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    Throughout the world, Catholic bishops have engaged in a systematic, organized effort going back decades to cover up for priests who molest children, pressuring the victims to sign confidentiality agreements and quietly assigning the predators to new parishes where they could go on molesting. Tens of thousands of children have been raped and tortured as a result of this conspiracy of silence.
     
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    What did the pope know and when did he know it? " Pope Benedict XVI, when he was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was personally implicated in a case from the 1970s in which at least three sets of parents reported that a priest in his diocese had sexually abused their children. In response, Ratzinger assigned the priest to therapy, without notifying law enforcement, and washed his hands of the matter. That priest was back on duty in just a few short days and went on to molest more children.
     
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    yeah but they oversee thriving catholic schools that all the smart jewish kids in NY go to
     
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    In 1981, again when Pope Benedict XVI was Cardinal Ratzinger, he got a letter from the diocese of Oakland asking him to defrock a priest who had acknowledged molesting two children. Ratzinger ignored this letter, and several followup letters, for four years. Finally, in 1985, he wrote back saying that more time was needed, and that they had to proceed very slowly to safeguard " the good of the Universal Church " in light of "the young age of the petitioner" -- by which he meant not the victimized children, but the pedophile priest. (By contrast, when a rogue archbishop ordained married men as priests, he was laicized six days later.
     
  20. Truth4U2

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    Of course you didn't quote what I actually said because you are trying, yet again, to twist my words. You don't want people to see the LOL I put after that statement, indicating that it was a joke. .... how can some people on here be so unethical, twisting the words of their opponent and stubbornly refusing to admit when something they said was proven wrong.
    I've got to stop wasting my time with the trolls on here. Those that were actually having a serious discussion with me seem to have disappeared and I'm left with the trolls. People just stubbornly stick to their viewpoints, whether they are proven true or false. There's this notion nowadays that "truth is relative" so I can believe whatever I want whether it's right or wrong, so people just dig in and defend what they want to defend regardless of whether it's right or wrong, or whether they might find a better way to live. Sad really. A sign of the times. That's why you don't see any real debates anymore, just people talking AT one another, not discussing theories WITH them. We may have more technology today, but we have fallen so far as a society in just about every other way.
     
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