Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

There are still a large number of students in Catholic schools, many of which are not even Catholic (they recognize the quality education, and how poor the public school alternatives are).

Here are some statistics to back up my claim (something my opponents in this thread rarely do)

• Total Catholic school student enrollment for the current academic year is 1,939,574.
  • 1,359,969 in elementary/middle schools; 579,605 in secondary schools
• Student diversity: 20.4% are racial minorities, 15.3% are Hispanic/Latino and 6.3% were reported as unknown in the racial data collection.
• Non-Catholic enrollment is 328,690 which is 16.9% of the total enrollment.

• There are 6,568 Catholic schools: 5,368 elementary; 1,200 secondary.
• 27 new schools opened; 88 consolidated or closed.
• 2,044 schools have a waiting list for admission.
• The student/teacher ratio is 13:1.

From the mid 1990s through 2000, there was a steady enrollment increase (1.3%) despite continued closings of schools.

https://www.ncea.org/data-information/catholic-school-data


Catholic schools are doing fine, and they represent the only schools that still offer a quality education. Again, I actually attended both Catholic and public schools, and I saw first-hand how much better the education was in Catholic schools, and how much more advanced academically my classmates in Catholic schools were. Students who went to Catholic elementary school were about 2 full years ahead of their public school counterparts.

Notice that 328,690 Catholic school students (16.9%) are not even Catholic...so their parents are paying tuition to send their kids to Catholic school even though they are not Catholic, that says it all about the quality of education in Catholic schools vs. public schools.

 

First of all, I already proved that Priests are not "child rapers". Virtually all of the accusations were either proven bogus, thrown out of court, or otherwise dismissed. A bunch of baseless attempts to extort money from the Church or smear the good name of its Priests. That website you guys are using shows this, but none of you want to bother reading the case information.

Secondly, according to science, anal "sex" is not sex. Sexual intercourse involves a man inserting his penis in the vagina of a woman for the purposes of procreation. That's from biology and evolution, not just religion. Sticking your johnson where it doesn't belong (in the anus) is a perversion of the reproductive system. The anus is part of the digestive system, so unless you're trying to digest your cock it makes no sense! lol. (well excretory system technically, but that's no better!) Same with oral "sex". Those things are referred to as "mutual masturbation". And anal sex used to be referred to as sodomy, in a more rational, sane time. It is abuse, plain and simple, whether or not the 2 parties are consenting. It's self-abuse at "best", and the abuse of another person at worst. But it's still abuse. And it has negative psychological effects on the individual. This is well-known by psychologists, but rarely advertised because it flies in the face (no pun intended) of the sick, twisted culture we are sadly a part of. People nowadays have forgotten the wisdom of their ancestors, and now don't even know when they are hurting themselves (and others) anymore.

You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, it may not be popular, but that doesn't make it any less true.

 

They probably went to Catholic school. lol. There are many Jewish students in Catholic schools, I knew a few when I was in Catholic school myself. But more to the point, I would say that the top 10% of students in both schools are pretty similar in terms of their education. It's the rest of the school where the big difference lies. The discipline and moral values instilled in students helps those who are not as inclined academically to do well in Catholic schools, while they usually fall through the cracks in public schools. I've seen it myself; in general, teachers in Catholic schools are much more dedicated and hard-working because they feel they are doing God's work, as a vocation. Public school teachers run out of the building quicker than the students at dismissal, and won't work a second past their union-mandated time. Sickening. Again, there are always exceptions, but I was in secondary education long enough, and spent time at enough schools, both public and private, to see that. It's no wonder public schools are graduating so many illiterates. Sadly that's not much of an exaggeration. They just pass them along, "social promotion" they call it. That's what the liberals call "progress" lol. smh.

 

No, that's not what I said. Did you read my whole post? (this is why people are criticizing me on here, they are not even reading most of what I post!) Or maybe they are choosing to ignore it because it destroys their argument, and they are so narcissistic that they will cling to false ideas rather than admit that they are wrong. Sign of the times, sadly. ... A wise man seeks to be reproved (corrected), while a fool resists it, never learning anything. That's from the book of Wisdom or Proverbs in the Bible. It's from the Old Testament btw, so Jews follow that as well.

 

Hey, you're the one who accused Priests of being child molesters (which is sick), so you have to back that up by showing at least one case where a Priest was actually convicted. But you can't do that, apparently. So stop trying to attack the Church unless you can back it up with facts.

 

"Total Catholic school student enrollment for the current academic year is 1,939,574."

That's still a lot of students, so my statement was based on fact. And you ignored the fact that over 300,000 non-Catholic students attend Catholic schools, which is 16.9% of total enrollment, despite the fact that they are not even Catholic and they have to pay a lot of money in tuition. But as always, you will just ignore that inconvenient truth because it doesn't fit your propaganda.

https://www.ncea.org/data-information/catholic-school-data

 

You're the one trying to claim that Priests are child molesters, so the burden of proof is on you. But you just keep making claims with no links. That link that people were using before shows how the vast majority of those accusations were not substantiated. I read about 20 cases, the text explaining them, and only 1 out of those 20 included a conviction. So the vast majority of convictions did turn out to be bogus!
http://www.bishop-accountability.or...n-s&lastName=&state=&diocese=&sortBy=lastName

Read as many of those cases as you want, and I challenge you to find more than 1 or 2 actual convictions. Remember, you're the one making the accusation, so the burden of proof is on you. I tried and didn't see more than 1 actual conviction, before I decided I was wasting my time wading through all those bogus accusations.

 

Translation: You're right, but I don't want to admit it because it doesn't help my case.

Like a broken record, I keep winning debate after debate and my opponents either A) drop out, B) resort to photoshopped Google images and name-calling, or C) try to change the subject by going back to claiming that Priests are "child molesters" because of a few legit cases worldwide out of hundreds of thousands of Priests. MUCH less than the number of perverts in any other occupation. Ignoring the fact that rejecting religion and instead following the culture's sexual promiscuity and perversions is what causes child abuse in the first place! ... Crazy, loco, ass backwards, but sadly that's the culture we are in today. That's why the Catholic Church is more important than ever!

 

There were also far more Catholics in the U.S. then, because this attack on the Church had not happened yet and the culture was just on the verge of beginning its downward spiral. So today, even though the population is higher, the percentage of Catholics is less, not to mention that, sadly, far too many Catholics no longer practice their Faith today. But even despite all of that, the actual number of students in Catholic schools is still pretty high, including as I mentioned before 16.9% enrollment by non-Catholics. That shows the strength of the education that Catholic schools still provide.