Archie Manning is a stud horse with super QB sperm. That is about where his value ends. Considering that Peyton went back to school after not getting his way and Eli refused to play for San Diego I think honor is in short supply in the Manning household.
we are still searching for Keyshawn's replacement, we have never replaced him. Marshall may finally fill that role. Moss was a great pick, the mistake was trading him for Coles in '05. we gave up Key and the Key trade did work out but we still gave away a top WR to do so and BB didn't want to stay b/c of BP. He cost us Manning, he cost us BB and may have cost us Brady. the draft by itself was good(I would hope so w/ 4 1st rounders though we only saw 1 all pro selection and a grand total of 5 pro bowls and 2 playoff wins w/ all 4) but factoring in losing Key and losing BB it was not good. Belichick led a dynasty, Key won a SB and we got 2 playoff wins where all 4 were playing(6 if you coun the 4 Ellis won after the other 3 were gone). Key alone won 3 in Tampa, BB has 21 in NE and we got 2 w/ all 4 guys. How is this a success?
I love Archie-- he was one of the first Sports Illustrated covers I remember as a kid when he was at Ole Miss. He's a great dad. He seems like a great person. But behind that "aw shucks" facade--Archie Manning has ONE loyalty--to the Manning Brand. He doesn't give a shit about the Giants or the San Diego Chargers or Indy or Denver or the Jets or Bill Parcells or anyone. He cares ONLY about protecting that franchise--the Manning Name and Legacy. I wouldn't listen to two words out of his mouth about what happened back when the Jets were courting Peyton. _
and playing for a future HOF coach in the #1 market would have been bad for the Manning name and legacy?
Newsflash genius but if Parcells doesn't come here Belechick doesn't either. The only thing Bill Parcells cost us was to continue losing tons of games as we continued on the Cosell/Kotite formula for success.
ok and if BP would have just stepped away and allowed BP to run his show like it was planned then BP isn't secretly working out new deals w/ NE. Parcells is one of the best coaches in pro football history, not so much as a GM type.
Jets all-time WR stats Rank Player-------------from--to--games--pos--av--rec---yds--y/r--TD--long--r/g--y/g--fumbles 1 Don Maynard 1960 1972 172 E 132 627 11732 18.7 88 87 3.6 68.2 5 2 Wesley Walker 1977 1989 154 WR 91 438 8306 19.0 71 96 2.8 53.9 9 3 Wayne Chrebet 1995 2005 152 WR 68 580 7365 12.7 41 70 3.8 48.5 8 4 Al Toon 1985 1992 107 WR 62 517 6605 12.8 31 78 4.8 61.7 5 5 Laveranues Coles 2000 2008 105 WR 58 459 rec 5,941 yards 12.9 37TD 63 4.4 56.6 5 6 George Sauer 1965 1970 84 SE 57 309 4965 16.1 28 77 3.7 59.1 3 7 Mickey Shuler 1978 1989 154 TE 49 438 4819 11.0 37 51 2.8 31.3 8 8 Jerome Barkum 1972 1983 158 TE 55 326 4789 14.7 40 63 2.1 30.3 4 9 Jerricho Cotchery 2004 2010 103 WR 43 358 4514 12.6 18 71 3.5 43.8 7 10 Rich Caster 1970 1977 107 TE 55 245 4434 18.1 36 91 2.3 41.4 5 11 Rob Moore 1990 1994 76 WR 40 306 4258 13.9 22 69 4.0 56.0 5 12 Keyshawn Johnson 1996 1999 62 WR 40 305 rec 4,108 yards 13.5 31TD 65 4.9 66.3 0
Belichick was working out secret deals with NE because he is a sleazy, lying weasel. Bill Parcells had little if anything to do with it. Please just get that through your incredibly thick skull.
stop w/ the childish attacks please. he was doing a Parcells style side deal b/c Parcells was going to be hovering over him.
Kraft started recruiting Belichick WAY before that offseason. That deal was getting done with or without Parcells presence. I'll see if I can find the article. _
he was talking w/ Kraft before he was elevated to HC of the Jets as Parcells never let him know he was stepping down even though BP knew and BB wanted a HC job. Had BP kept him in the loop BB would have been NYJ HC and more than likely Brady would have been here and you guys would be bashing those bashing BB and Brady today as they would have been doing it for the Jets.
