Curtis Martin was signed as a restricted free agent. The Patriots gave him the highest tender costing us a first and third round pick after they chose not to match the deal Martin signed with us.
No, Archie sent him back to school. Parcells chose not to negotiate with terrorists. He made the right call.
Terrorists! OMG ROFLMAO!!! Parcells did NOT do the right thing. He screwed this franchise in a myriad of ways. Eff him. I wish he had never been hired by the Jets. Putting his faith in Vinny Testaverde and Rick Mirer at QB. ROFLMAO
Answer the question so you reveal your duplicitous bullshit. Who traded Keyshawn Johnson? Al Groh? Or Bill Parcells? Can't do it because one side of your argument contradicts the other side. _
Dude calm down, you've posted this like 5 times, this is trolling. And Parcells was the GM in 2000, Groh wasn't the one who made the decision to trade Keyshawn. I don't even know what stance junc has taken on this but it absolutely would have been BP who made the decision. And not for anything I'm not taking Groh's word on anything. He quit after one year on the job. Yeah it was a coincidence that the Virginia job opened up but that is 2 coaches who quit on Parcells the GM within a year. Something was definitely up with the Tuna.
Exactly. It's not trolling. I'm just asking junc to admit he got caught talking out both sides of his ass for once. Have you ever known junc not to answer a question? He couldn't because he needed the weekend to fashion a BS duplicitous response. Early and often in the thread he asserted Parcells was an awful GM because, among other things, he chased away our best WR and allowed that patsy Groh to take the bullets for Parcells decision to do that. So Parcells could hide from the media criticism. It was all Parcells. His decision to trade Key. Later he claimed Parcells had ceded full control to Groh over all personell matters including the draft (which has been proven false). And that Keyshawn confirmed Groh was in charge and in effect ordered the trade. If it was Parcells, then he did NOT cede full control so his bluster about Groh being in charge (including the draft, which we all know) was bullshit. If it was Groh, then why blame Parcells for chasing away our best WR (and Belichick who left in his own)? If he's going to have an anti-Parcells bias, then blame Parcells for it all--including giving him credit for the 2000 draft which we all know Parcells ran. If he's going to give credit to Groh for that draft, why blame Parcells for chasing away Key other than an unnatural bias against Parcells? It's one or the other. Not both. Not when his words say otherwise. _
Fair enough but it doesn't need to be posted that many times. If he wants to answer it he will (and I'm sure he will) but I'm firmly in the camp that Parcells while a great coach for us was a terrible GM. Yes the 2000 draft was great but that's about the only one he nailed. Scott Frost, Dorian Boose among some gems. Salary Cap wise he ran the team into the ground which led to some difficult decisions i.e.; Aaron Glenn, Randy Young and Marcus Coleman being 3 of the 1st 7 players ever taken by the Texans show that. I find it hard to blame the coach when you have a GM as powerful and ego driven as Tuna. It just seems unlikely that a 1st year head coach is making the call to trade your best WR. It worked out for us but I'm not buying it.
Awful GM. Awful drafts. 1997, 1998 and 1999 were AWFUL. Not the point. Kill Parcells all you want but don't be a wanker and not give him credit for what he did. He won't answer the question (posed 5 times) because he needs the weekend to make up a duplicitous response. Wait for it 8:00 am Monday. That 2000 draft was all Parcells. We all know it but as is Junc's MO, he wrongly shits on guys he hates (Namath, O'Brien, Parcells) and digs his heels in even though he's been proven wrong and derails threads with made up crap and articles that don't support what he's asserting. Then goes into martyr mode whining about being abused. If he once admitted he was wrong-like he's been proven so many times--he wouldn't be such a lightening rod for criticism. But he revels in it. So he gets what he deserves. _
But you don't get to decide what he should and shouldn't answer. I don't care why he will respond or why he won't, posting it 5 times is trolling and regardless of if he admits he's wrong you're trolling him to try and get a response. Just let it go and move on. If he responds which I'm sure he will knowing junc and he won't admit he's wrong which he'll say he isn't let it go. I agree with you that Parcells was a shit GM who set the franchise back when we had many of these great young players like Glenn, Abe, Ellis, Coles, Chad, Martin and that OL with Fabini, Young, and Mawae in their prime but we lacked that one elite playmaker to take us to the next level. That falls on Parcells and Bradway who was probably a notch better than Bill in the GM department was incapable of fixing the mess.
Apologies but the thread went back and forth many many many times and we were all admonished for ignoring his teachings. When you shit on Parcells for getting rid of Key but then you give credit to Groh for the 2000 draft and say Groh was in charge of all personnel moves including getting rid of Key, that doesn't compute. And if I'm going to be admonished for ignoring his teachings, I'm going to point out the duplicity. _
I wasn't wrong, my answers are the posts from yesterday. he doesn't like the answers so he keeps asking. He doesn't like reality.
Can't answer the question because it'd show the duplicity. It's what I expected. Case CLOSED! Great draft Bill--at least you didn't fuck THAT one up. _
I wrote it, you choose to ignore it. That's on you. Please stop bothering me. Thanks Bill! you helped NE create a dynasty.
