http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/28/iran-fires-boards-marshall-islands-cargo-ship/ http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...ards-commercial-container-ship-official-says/
Netanyahoo has to be super angry that there is no Iran war and that no one listens to him anymore on the world scene. UK, France, Germany, China, Russia, US, EU...all said no.
Netanyahoo has his job which is protecting Israel who are surrounded by enemies. So he's going to oppose anything that they think could help Iran. Even though the US under Obama has been giving Israel huge aid and support. But Obama's job is US interests and world security. And not going into a war that would make the Iraq War look like a Sunday picnic. What I truly hate is the Repub Congress opposing everything just because it's coming from this administration. Even if they hate the President they're supposed to be on the same side and not trying to torpedo his foreign policy. This is not a fly by night deal. It's been negotiated now for over two years. And the reason they are at this point in the first place is because Obama got other world powers to agree to the toughest economic sanctions on Iran. This was the key bargaining chip. Under the previous President (in my opinion one of the worst ever) there was a lot of hot air and no action. And during the Bush Admin is when Iran increased their nuclear potential and almost all of their centrifuges. The people in Iran are celebrating not because they snookered the US. They could care less about having nuclear weapons. They want Apple computers and a chance to make a decent living. To almost all Iranians it's all about their standard of living. The deal might not work because Iran probably won't abide by it. And the sanctions lifted are snap backs. But what I hate is opposition politics which has been going on for over six years.
There is a lot of opposition to the Mullahs in Iran and they know this. A strong middle class and not always a silent one. That country is in a transition period and eventually it could end up being a secular state. Bringing them into the world community could speed this transition. Instead of giving them money for terrorism it could give them the boost they need to get rid of this element in their society and government. Who wants to keep sanctions on people for life and keep down an entire population. When most of their citizens are not terrorists or religious extremists. And if they do take these billions and go in that direction the sanctions or worse can be reimposed. Plus Iran is enemies with ISIS. It's their part of the world. Let them fight ISIS and destroy them not the US. In the long run Iran could be part of the solution instead of the problem.
Great deal. Sanctions on Iran get lifted prior to any evidence of them complying, none of their existing nuclear infrastructure is removed and now Russia is free to sell them ICBM's. What could go wrong? I'm sure the Iranians have the best intentions in mind, right?
Where to begin?..... "Even though the US under Obama has been giving Israel huge aid and support" The US has been giving significant aid to Israel from day one be it under a Republican or Democratic administration. "What I truly hate is the Repub Congress opposing everything just because it's coming from this administration." So political philosophy should never come into play and both legislative branches of government should only serve as a rubber stamps for the executive branch, is that what you're saying? "They (Iran) could care less about having nuclear weapons." and in the next breath: "The deal might not work because Iran probably won't abide by it." "But what I hate is opposition politics which has been going on for over six years." I see, so 'opposition politics' has been the sole domain of the GOP, is that what you're saying? Nancy and Harry say hi..
Once the persians get a nice taste of the good life what with Jordache jeans, Hardee's hamburgers and international women's soccer tournaments, no way in hell they'd do anything to fuck that up. We got this.
I don't think that's true. And sanctions are snap backs. Maybe you're just hoping for failure. Because you don't want anything Obama to be successful. Even if it's something good. No, just bomb them. You would think Rand Paul would be in favor of something like this. But it wouldn't be very Republican of him to come out and say this.
It's like Kerry says to the oppositionists. People who never accomplish anything but oppose everything. What's their plan other than bombing Iran. Plus this isn't just about the US. It does include other world powers like Russia. Putin is still going to sell those ICBMs to Iran no matter who the US President is. If the US does not approve this deal than it will still go down. And other world powers want an agreement with Iran and don't want to continue with sanctions forever. There are enough fail safes included to stop it if they don't comply. Give peace a chance.
Iran has not proven anything to the global community for there to be a removal of sanctions. Iran is still caught aiding terrorism and proclaiming death to America and death to the western world; and of course death to Israel. I do not think this president has been as bad as many critics think, but this is a bad deal. This is the kind of bad deal that can completely destroy the Obama 'legacy'.
OK. So how is Obama anti-Israel if he is supporting funding of Israel. He has opposed settlements when he thought it was unfair and made it impossible to have an eventual peace. And in the Hamas War he opposed some of the Israeli bombing when civilians were killed. How is this anti-Israel. What are they above criticism. Esp. when you're giving them billions of dollars. As for the Repubs and their opposition politics. This started the first day of the Obama administration. This is an organized opposition to almost everything he has done. Not because of philosophical differences but for political reasons only. There's a big difference between the Iran gov and the citizens of Iran. Sure I don't trust their government. But the people deserve a chance to better their lives. I'm not like BiBi for perpetual sanctions against them. I like Harry and Nancy. They are both great Americans. (I'm sure that comment makes you sick to your stomach). I think they are both for the American people. Not Big oil and billionaires like many of the Repubs.
Iranian nukes would probably be a good thing. They'd take a constant chant for war from all sides and mute it into a whisper, just like they've done everywhere else they've been deployed. Hell, we should hand them nukes just to guarantee the US will never have to intervene in an Iran/Israel war.
The whole thing about the deal is that it's only about their ability to build nuclear weapons. It's not about the other stuff like state sponsor of terrorism. It's a first step. Sanctions when implemented can be retracted. They have unparalleled access to nuclear facilities in Iran. And monitoring by the IAEA. Here is a short article on it http://www.vox.com/2015/7/14/8963503/iran-nuclear-deal-violation. Please don't reply with ridiculous articles from the Washington Times or Fox News who just want to torpedo it.
The country that hid Osama Bin-Laden from us for the better part of a decade, that created the Taliban and then supported them, that implicitly supported Afghanistan as a safe haven for Al-Qaida, they had nukes the whole time. Unsurprisingly no mushroom clouds appeared despite a country with nukes supporting the most violent terrorist organization and harboring it's leader on their soil.
Pakistan and India have nukes and 4 wars under their belt. No more big wars in their future. North Korea got nukes with South Korea in their beady-eyed sights. No war. No "accidental" nukes in South Korea. Russia and NATO have nukes. No wars in two generations and unlikely to ever see a big one again. China and Russia have nukes. No war. The US has never initiated "peace-keeping" operations when the country or territory in question had nukes. The easy way to tell that the Neocon run up to Iraq was just major bullshit was they were determined to invade. If Iraq had actually had nukes there's no way we ever go in there in the first place.
So you don't want law abiding citizens to own guns because it's dangerous to the public but you do want countries that publicly state their mission is to destroy the US to have nuclear weapons. I mean it all makes sense, in a liberal fantasy world kind of way, just clarifying.
