Best and Worst Free Agent Signings in Jets History

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  1. BigGreenUgly

    BigGreenUgly Well-Known Member

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    I'm confused...when did Parcells turn down an opportunity with Peyton Manning exactly?
     
  2. JStokes

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    Keyshawn Johnson, as an older player with the Cowboys, became a legit team player and true leader.

    Keyshawn Johnson, as a Jet, was a locker room disease that was a divisive force and gave a shit only about himself and his money.

    I get not living through the Namath era and not fully understanding it and trying to google search articles to offer up some proof that he wasn't very good. It's what unknowledgeable fans with an anti-Namath bias do.

    But having LIVED through the Keyshawn era, to even SUGGEST he was a good teammate is hilarious.

    It is an abortion of credulity to think that.

    He was a bad guy and everyone knew it, notwithstanding what another similarly situated teammate may have said.

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    He wrote a book calling out his teammate and former teammates....he was divisive no doubt...but he was an exceptional player those three years 97-99....maybe the most important player on the roster....his playoff game against the Jags was as good a postseason performance by a jet in recent memory....a TD catch, a TD run, ALMOST TD pass, and an interception ...


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  4. James Hasty

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    In hindsight yes, Manning was a special QB,

    When he came out the following year half of the teams thought Ryan Leaf was the better QB.

    You are crazy if you think an NFL GM should let a potential draft pick call the shots. The tail does not wag the dog.

    If we drafted Manning there is no way we win the SB in 1998 or 1999.

    Big Bill took his best shot and got us very close.

    If not for the turf monster 1999 would have been our year.
     
  5. JStokes

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    You misunderstood my stance on Keyshawn.

    I LOVED him as a player. He was easily my favorite Jet during that time. Even more so than Chrebet I am ashamed to say.

    I remember sitting in my family room during the Rose Bowl drooling as I watched him catch 20 passes for 500 yards and my wife laughing at me saying "these are your Jets, they aren't going to draft him" yet we did.

    I so wanted to love the person, too. I couldn't. He was my favorite player but a total douche.

    As a Met and Jet fan, he was my Jets version Darryl Strawberry who was also my favorite player. Always the super talent, my favorite player always saying or doing the wrong thing.

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  6. pclfan

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    One thing about Keyshawn on the Jets was that he gave Wayne Chrebet a hard time. He thought since he was bigger and had all of the physical attributes plus was the overall no. 1 pick and that Wayne was a UFA he should get all of the glitz and glamor and Wayne none. I wasn't unhappy when they traded him.
     
  7. James Hasty

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    You have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Keyshawn was a great player for us but gets a lot of hate because he wanted to get paid.

    Cherbet was a nice player but Keyshawn was something special.
     
  8. JStokes

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    Clearly. I'm just ashamed that, against my better judgement, I prefered the more physically talented player (but an ahole) to a player with more heart and desire.

    If you could have combined Key's physical talents with Wayne's heart and desire, you'd have the greatest WR in the history if the NFL.

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  9. James Hasty

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    Every player in the NFL puts there life on the line every time they step on the field.

    Why does Wayne Cherbet somehow have more heart and desire than Keyshawn or anyone else that wore Jet's green?

    I don't remember Keyshawn taking any plays off.
     
  10. JStokes

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    Geezuz.

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  11. Walt White

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    Speaking of Keyshawn: I'll never forget the post game presser immediately following the game in which Vinny went down in '99.
    Key was one the first people in the room and the first thing he did was slam down on the podium furiously nearly wrecking the thing.
    That said it all for everybody that day who's hopes were crushed by that freak injury.
    That team was poised to make a serious run for rings
     
  12. JStokes

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    Ooooof that was one of the greatest let downs ever.

    That team was loaded for bear.

    That was before I had season tix, I was at my daughter's soccer game listening to the Jets on a freaking Sony Walkman radio and was crushed when Vinny went down.

    Like it was yesterday.

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  13. Walt White

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    Yeah, fuck it was surreal. I'm reliving it now and it sucks.

    I get why people love Chrebet. I kinda liked Key myself....the player that is. It was tough getting through what he said about Chrebet tho. That was unforgivable
     
  14. JStokes

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    Look, teammates don't need to like each other to be a successful team. The Yankees back in the day hated each other.

    But as a fan, I wanted a winning team AND the illusion that my team was one big happy family. I know it's not important, but it's what I was hoping for.

    Loved Key, great player. He was a divisive douche.

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    I disagree. He had plenty of choice. I think his ego was the problem, not trying to please that old moron Hess.
     
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    The 1997 draft. Archie Manning wanted a guarantee from Parcells that he would take Manning with the first pick and not trade it to some other team. Parcells refused to guarantee that he would take Manning, so Manning, on the advice of his father, stayed in school another year.
     
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    Exactly! Anyone who was a Jets fan knew it for certain, and probably most other NFL fans knew it as well. To try to claim (or worse, believe) that Keyshawn was otherwise is totally delusional and devoid of any hint of reality.
     
  18. BigGreenUgly

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    I would never accuse Parcells of being anything other than a great coach....his GM abilities were subpar at best...


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  19. NCJetsfan

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    It's not so much a matter of letting a potential draft pick call the shots. It's a matter of the Jets needing a quality QB, not having had one since Kenny O'Brien and before that Joe Namath. Manning was the consensus best player. Are you seriously going to try to tell me that drafting a DE/LB out of need and garnering some additional lower round picks would help the team more than adding a real QB prospect in Manning?

    To say that "there is no way we win the BS in 1998 or 1999" with Manning is flat out stupid. You don't know that. Perhaps not in '98, but by '99 it was Peyton's 3rd season in the NFL. We almost made the playoffs with Ray Lucas after floundering with Rick Mirer for around 4 games. With Manning on board, Parcells would have had no reason to go into a funk and not try for 4 weeks or more. We definitely would have been a playoff team, and probably a whole lot more.
     
  20. JStokes

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    To be fair, I'm sure some teammates loved him.

    There are always a few.

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