Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

First of all, you are talking about a church in Brooklyn, and then you mention the Priest was moved to New Jersey. First Crooklyn, and then the Devils in New Jersey. The NY-metro area; NY, NJ, and LI, is rife with depravity and corruption. Not surprising it might even affect their churches. I moved with my family to Long Island for 2 years, and on the way we were warned by a nice middle-aged woman about what we were getting ourselves into; the corruption, how rude the people were, etc. And boy was she right!! Those were the worst 2 years of my life. It's no wonder that most of the terrible, horrific stories of abuse and cruelty you hear in the news come from Long Island. It's true, next time you watch the 6 o'clock news pay attention to where those stories of animal abuse, child abuse, etc, come from. Most are from LI, and the rest Jersey or the city. Now I understand why some people on this bulletin board, a Jets board after all with many fans from LI and NJ, have a bad impression of the Church. I have been to those "dead" parishes in Jersey and on LI, and let me tell you, if you ever visit a church in upstate NY you will be amazed at how much more vibrant, spirit-filled, and crowded masses are in those areas. Last time I was at Sunday Mass in NJ I was saddened to see the empty pews and lifeless lack of participation by those that did attend. It's nothing like that where I live, and from what I understand in most other parts of the country!

Plus, you "reason" that the Priest who married your best friend was not there to baptize his daughter, so he must have been moved to another parish because he molested a child....that's ridiculous!!! Priests are re-assigned all the time for many different reasons, almost never because they did anything wrong! We just recently lost a great young Priest at our Parish whom everyone loved, not because he was a "child molester" lol, but because he was promoted to become Pastor of his own parish in a neighboring town. He's thriving there, and as beloved by his congregation as ever! Man oh man, the stupidity in some of these posts on here, and the complete lack of reason or logic! You have stooped to a new low in trying to attack the Catholic Church. But we Catholics are getting used to these false accusations from baseless propaganda, sadly. You know they did the same thing to the Jews in Nazi Germany; a media-controlled propaganda effort to bastardize the Jewish people. The same thing is happening to the Catholic Church today.

 

Where did you hear that? Was it a Catholic-basher, or the National Inquirer perhaps? lol. I also read that a 3-headed alien was born in the sewers in Manhattan last week. The National Inquirer told me so. (and before you attack me for that, NO I don't read the National Inquirer lol, I'm just making a point.)

 

....is that why they have de-frocked the 1% of Priests who were accused of child molestation? ... But don't let the facts get in the way of a good propaganda-fueled attack now.

 

Those records go back over 100 years. And those include false accusations, probably a large percentage of the cases where people have dug up supposed incidents from 50 or 60 years ago that they just coincidentally bring up when the church is being attacked in the 2000's? Hmmm.....how naive can you be!? And regardless of how many you think are legit, there have been enough Priests in the past 100 years or so that we are talking about probably 1% or 2% of Priests even being accused, let alone being proven guilty. But then again, we had a witch hunt in this country in the past, which we now understand was bogus.

 

I starting reading the actual cases of alleged Priest abuse in that website you posted earlier, and it was sickening to see how all of the cases I read were unsubstantiated allegations and NOT ONE Priest was actually found guilty of any wrongdoing!!! I got tired of reading all of these bogus claims after awhile, most from people in the early 2000's citing alleged cases that supposedly happened to them 40 or 50 years ago! They wait until the church is under attack by the far left media in the 21st century to bring them up, joining the witch hunt, a bunch of Catholic-bashers trying to get money from the Church. Just sickening!

If you don't believe me, read on, this from the website you yourself posted earlier today:

-- Nadal, 67, said there was a conspiracy against him within the parish. Jury deliberated 10 minutes and ACQUITTED him.

-- no civil charges or criminal charges were filed.

-- Accused of abuse of 5 boys in their mid-teens in 1960s. First allegation not received by archdiocese until 1997. Retired in 1991. Nawn died 1996. Named in 2004 and 2006 civil suits. Suit rejected by 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals 11/07.

-- the allegations had been investigated & he was exonerated.

-- He was never criminally prosecuted.

-- Accused in 1/04 of molesting boy beginning at age 16 in early 1960s....[he sure waited a long time to bring that up, convenienlty after the rash of unsubstantiated accusations against Priests had begun in the late 90s, early 2000s.] Once again, no criminal charges were filed.

-- Accused in 12/07 of repeatedly molesting a boy in 1977-78 starting at age 15 ... again, unsubstantiated and no charges were filed.

http://www.bishop-accountability.or...n-s&lastName=&state=&diocese=&sortBy=lastName


I got tired of reading unsubstantiated claims by individuals with no charges filed, arrests, court cases, or prosecutions. The Church was bullied, basically, into putting these Priests on leave, or paying settlements to the alleged victims. Again, not one Priest was actually found guilty in a court of law in all the cases I read!