Mets Regular Season thread

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Nice finish going into the All Star break.

    Good game by Niese.

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  2. Walt White

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    Ditto on Niese. He's really turned it on, good to see.

    Over all D is better now. Duda will hopefully hit better, but his D is quite a pleasant surprise.
     
  3. pclfan

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    Good win. Great to win a few games before the All Star break. It's kind of like scoring a Td just before halftime. Sorry Walt but I can't understand supporting Eric Campbell. The guys hitting .174. I know Sandy loves OBP but it's .288. This is not big league. It used to be that if you hit below the Mendoza line it meant you weren't MLB. As for McGehee I only brought him up because Gary mentioned him. He's a lifetime .262 hitter with a .322 OBP. Last year he hit .287 with a .355 OBP. He's still owed 2.5 mil for the season and that's the reason the Mets had no interest in him. I'll take him over any of those Mets bench guys including Kirk because those three Hrs are an anomaly. He now has 3 hrs for the season. The Angels who spent money on him cut him in under a month. I like the guy and wish him well. But he's not MLB and McGehee is.
     
  4. JStokes

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    I know I'm being an optimist but I really think Duda and Murph turn it on in the second half.

    We get d'Arnaud back and those two and this offense might be adequate enough to stay in the hunt until September with this staff.

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  5. Walt White

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    I'm supporting Cambell in response to your bleating on about not signing McGehee. Like it was stupid that our FO didn't sign him.
    The Marlins are riddled with injuries and were desperate for help. Luckily for them a team that's also in need of help saw better than to waste a roster spot on McGehee anymore.
    Campbell has been better than McGehee this year, sorry pcl. That's the way is.
     
  6. Walt White

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    It's fair, and realistic. They 're right there. The D is better now too. They're in the hunt. Get a couple of guys back and you never know.
    I'm gonna miss the Metsies, four days off, damn. This is a fun team now
     
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    Our offense is the worst in the NL http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/league/nl. And you're ok with .174 hitters and even try to find the bright side about them. I hope I'm wrong and you're right and that if you stand pat with these guys they will eventually play better. But to me a GM is supposed to fill holes and weaknesses not just stand by and do nothing.
     
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  8. Walt White

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    And you keep throwing a number out there that means nothing. Cambell's a bit role player that was forced into action due to key injuries to David Wright, and Daniel Murphy, among others.
    If you looked beyond you're focus on a single negative, you'd see he's done a good job and has potential as a developmental player.
    He's another number, try to look at it without the hate: 47-42
     
  9. pclfan

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    The Mets are under .500 since April. 34-39 since going 13-3. Not good enough. With more bats they are a better team. You can't throw shutouts and have pitchers hit home runs every day. They are in a little bit of a winning streak. I'll say it one more time: you can't win with .174 or .83 hitters even on your bench. Good orgs don't do this.
     
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  10. Walt White

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    Yeah, man...it's a world of shit. No good. Fire everybody. And get McGehee in here!!
     
  11. pclfan

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    Let's Go Mets!
     
  12. JStokes

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    Lol.

    As a long suffering Met fan, I'm pretty happy where we are right now. I'd like better, I'd like an all star at every position. Like the Yankees used to have.

    But I have no choice but to accept the constraints put on my franchise by ownership so I'm going to hope and root for the best.

    No sense whining about it.

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  13. Walt White

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    On and on...and on.

    It's a rebuild from the ground up. It's the way baseball is now.
    We may have a head start on a trend. If you just look forward we're in good shape.

    With the successes of the KC's and SF's, and our Owners, get used to it. Bleating on about whats wrong is a waste of time.
    The works not done.

    Don't like it? Too bad. Get used to it. Lol
     
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  14. pclfan

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    I'm not bleating and I resent that. But maybe it's overkill on my part complaining about Sandy. But the glass half full scenario is not the way I see it. And Walt that's all I keep hearing from you. So I'm replying to that and I think that I'm right. I've hated Sandy's approach to the MLB roster now for 3 years. The Mets aren't a minor league team and this isn't a complete frame off restoration. He inherited talent.
     
  15. Walt White

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    I don't care. It's not a half full outlook. It's an objective look at what I see. All you do second guess everything. You'll never stop doing that. Even if they win.
    Responding to the idea that not signing McGehee was an example bad management is not having a glass half full outlook. It's giving a reason why it's a not a move to make.
    I'm sorry if takes away from your bad example of why Sandy sucks, and you're reason for shitting on it...... every fukn day. That's what you don't like
    Every day you whine about the same thing, and don't care about any other perspective, or reason, for what's happening. It sucks and that's it. Sorry dude that you see it that way. But they're better than that. They're better than what you want to believe, or are capable of understanding.
     
  16. pclfan

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    It's a baseball forum and complaining about your team isn't whining. That's what the hot stove league is all about not blanketly accepting everything they do or say. I won't reply to your posts anymore. But I will add my POV on this thread. I think the stats show I'm right. And winning a couple of games against the D-Backs is no big deal.
     
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  17. Walt White

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    Thanks for the reality check. I'll try to remember: Sandy sucks, and the team sucks, and this a fluke right now. This is a failure. Okay
    Thinking that signing Casey McGehee is not a good move and a bad example of poor management, with the reasons, isn't good enough. It's 'blankety' accepting anything they do. Gotcha
     
  18. JStokes

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    I think legit criticism is fine but the constant whining gets tedious after a while.

    Sandy isn't perfect but he's got shackles on him by the Wilpons.

    Let's just make the best of it. I'm very bullish on their future.

    I'd be pleased as punch if we stay relevant until the end.

    Better than what we've gotten the past 6 years.

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  19. pclfan

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    Sandy has 100 mil. You can't blame everything on the Wilpons. He made zero moves at the Winter Meetings. I posted McGehee's stats. He's a good player and an authentic MLB bat. Not my first choice but a good reserve player for a playoff run. I'd like to rid the MLB roster of minor leaguers. And give us our best chance to win. If you consider this POV annoying how do you think I feel about the glass half full philosophy. And telling me a .174 hitter is ok.
     
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  20. Walt White

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    Agree. Well said. Its what I've been saying all along

    My perspective has changed. I think things are looking up. I was down on them, more than most. Even at the start of this season.

    I try to look at the big picture, and what mangement is trying to accomplish, under the circumstances, for the future.

    I'm bullish and excited. If they fall short it will not take away from I see as a bright future. Its taken a long time, but the light at the end of the tunnel is there now.

    There's viable reasons for what they're doing. They've made mistakes. But the jobs incomplete and the theme of complaining that everthing they do is no good is a drag, and wrong.
     

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