2014-15 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD

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  1. Poeman

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    Wow I love when creative folks have too much time on their hands. Pure gold lol.

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  3. Yisman

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    The more I think about it, the more this bothers me.

    And I don't care about either team.

    It's just doesn't sit right.

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    Well no kidding, DAJ went back on his word, the guy broke the handshake rule. But that's what the NBA gets for their sign later policy, it's specifically to allow this sort of treachery to happen which was going to happen sooner or later. I don't think they really thought this through when they set up that rule
     
  6. Yisman

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    Carlos Boozer must've been DJ's advisor on that one
     
  7. JStokes

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    Yeah, that's exactly who I was thinking of. I remember how much that one chapped my ass.

    Again, I have no love for the Mavs but they thought they had a deal and held off on doing anything else, thinking they were set.

    They got doubly screwed--they didn't get the premier player they wanted and therefore didn't make any other moves because they didn't think they had a need to.

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    Fuck the Mavs. if he signed there and had a bad year or 2 Cuban would've sent him packing as soon as he could without any notice. It goes both ways.

    The Boozer thing was different because Cleveland didn't even have to let him become a FA. They could've kept him on another year for peanuts
     
  9. Yisman

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    yeah Cleveland got very screwed with that one

    whole reason they let him become a FA was because he had agreed to re-sign

    then he stabbed them in the back

    Boozer then tried to claim there was no deal. As if that holds any water. Everyone knew Cleveland wasn't letting him out of the deal unless he agreed to re-sign.

    But either way, Boozer and Jordan both reneged on agreements.
     
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    "on a date" lol, DA is banging Steve Balmer
     
  11. NYJalltheway

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    Can someone explain the luxury tax to me? Why is it so bad to be in it? It doesn't make sense to me.

    Isn't there a set salary cap?
     
  12. JStokes

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    It has a 2x multiplier effect. There is a soft cap but if you exceed it, you get levied with a tax that increases linearly by the amount you exceed the cap.

    If you exceed the cap by a dollar, you pay an additional $1 tax that gets distributed to the rest of the league.

    So signing a guy that puts you $10 million over the cap increases your payroll by an additional $10 million.

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    So going 30 million over would be like giving a million to every team?

    Is there a set amount that teams can go over? Or could they hypothetically (no matter how dumb it is) give max contracts out to everybody like candy?
     
  14. Yisman

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    same as in baseball

    you can go over but it's very expensive to do so

    and in the NBA the tax gets increasingly harsher depending on the number of years you've been over the cap

    No matter how much money a team has, they have to be conscious of the tax.
     
  15. Yisman

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    the NBA differs from baseball in that you can go over signing your own players but you wouldn't be allowed to sign FAs.

    So I guess you could give all your guys max contracts but you still can't assemble an All Star team unless you traded for the guys.

    If you're over the cap, you can make signings with midlevel exceptions and the like, which are for lower level guys. You wouldn't be able to bring in stars (unless they agreed to play for like 5 million a year. That was how the Lakers had Malone+Payton+Kobe+Shaq, although that team ultimately failed).
     
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    I think they can go over as much as they want but I'm not sure. That's what my Nets did.

    But if you're a Russian Billionaire Oligarch, it doesn't really matter.

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    So as fans, should we just not care about going into it? I saw an article that said the Thunder have done a great job not going into it, like it's so important.
     
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    I'm not sure how it effects what you can do in FA, Yisman seems to have a better handle.

    But it's not my money, I don't pay for tix when I go to games (which is rare) so I don't really care how much money my owner wants to flush down the toilet.

    If my owner is frugal and it limits what my team can do-like the Wilpons-I'd be pissed.

    But if I've got a billionaire owner who doesn't mind spending money, I say go to it.

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    Ok. Thanks guys.
     
  20. Yisman

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    most teams don't want to pay the tax so they try to stay under

    and if you want to be able to sign big FAs you have to care about the cap

    The whole reason for the Harden trade was OKC knew that signing him would mean going over and paying the luxury tax
     

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