NYC wastes more money (Trump golf course)

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  1. Yisman

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/05/n...e-a-lesson-in-inequality.html?ref=todayspaper


    If the thought of Donald Trump has been lodged in your head of late, exclusively as a Republican presidential candidate, defamer of immigrants and thrice-wed champion of traditional marriage, then it may have escaped your attention that a lush and extravagant municipal golf course bearing his name — Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point — opened this spring on the southeastern shoreline of the Bronx. Paid for by New York City, to the sum of $127 million, and maintained by the Trump organization, the course offers the kind of visual lessons in inequality that make statistics and editorials and Thomas Piketty seem ponderously inefficient.

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    The view from the hilly course, designed by Jack Nicklaus, accommodates the entirety of the Manhattan skyline across the East River; from one vantage point, all you see is 432 Park Avenue protruding from billionaire’s row. A stretch of housing projects borders the links and so does a tightly packed cemetery, St. Raymond’s, near the Whitestone Bridge, a reminder that in New York death really is an extension of life — so much noise and not enough room.

    For years, the notion that a luxury golf course would be built in the city’s most impoverished borough struck many as the equivalent of handing a camisole to a person with frostbite. The justification had been not simply that the enterprise would constitute a means of job creation for Bronx residents — which indeed it has — but also that the course would be so challenging in its play and so indistinguishable from a country club in its sensibility that it would attract major championship competition and in turn millions of dollars in revenue for the city.

    But how likely is it now that the United States Open, so dependent on corporate sponsorships, will be scheduled on a public course named for someone who said he is committed to building a wall at the Mexican border to keep out drug dealers and “rapists”? Although you could argue that none of his comments could have been anticipated, getting blindsided by craziness from Mr. Trump is like landing at a monastery only to be surprised that it’s quiet.

    A day after Mr. Trump told the Golf Channel that he had “tremendous support from the golf world because they all know I’m right,” the country’s major professional golf associations issued a joint statement saying, “Mr. Trump’s comments are inconsistent with our strong commitment to an inclusive and welcoming environment in the game of golf.”

    That followed the move on the part of NBC Universal to sever ties with Mr. Trump on his television projects and an announcement from the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce that it would no longer consider Trump hotels as sites for two conventions next year that make up the largest meetings of Hispanic business leaders in the country.

    “He has no idea what’s coming,” the organization’s president, Javier Palomarez, told me. “The Hispanic community is really galvanized around this.”

    Mr. Trump’s involvement in the Ferry Point project highlights the problematic nature of public-private partnerships and the mistakes we make when we assign amusement-value status to people who might actually mean what they say. His position in the presidential race, catering to the far right, leaves him saying so many things potentially threatening to his business interests that it raises the question of whether he really is as much an ideologue as he is an entertainer.

    In a statement saying that he found Mr. Trump’s remarks “offensive and disgusting,” Mayor Bill de Blasio, a Democrat, added that the city would review its contracts with the Trump organization, which is receiving five years of free rent at Ferry Point while Mr. Trump builds a $10 million clubhouse that the company expects to finish next year.
     
  2. Poeman

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    Just waiting for the day Trump gets Madoff'd
     
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    $190 for non resident to play, are they fucking kidding? Tobacco Rd in NC is 10 times nicer and you can play with a cart for under $60. No I never played Ferry Point but can just know it is nowhere near as nice. Sandestin is another beautiful course for $60-$80. Yes, I know it is NYC but I'll just go to Pelham Bay & Split Rock when I go up there and play for $39.
     
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    I wonder how many bodies they found when they were building the course.
     
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    A little off topic but ...
    Trump is a joke but it would be nice if people could stop pretending like he wasn't specifically talking about illegal immigrants. It's almost as if people don't know the difference anymore.
     
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    I hope he at least makes it far enough for the debates.
     
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    So do the television broadcasts. Either way I think the Republican battle will be one hilarious debates
     
  8. Yisman

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    Trump for president is a publicity stunt, but I can't believe they made this stupid golf course

    in the Bronx!

    Mind boggling
     
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    In theory, what he said about some illegal immigrants isn't completely wrong. He screwed up by singling out Mexicans rather than all the different types of illegal immigrants that use the Mexican border to gain access to this country.

    If he didn't say Mexico in that speech h
    half the country would've rallied around the thought of protecting our homeland for the people who are born and raised Americans. All the tax free labor and property drives every tax paying American's taxes up to unbearable amounts.

    That being said, Trump's a moron and lost a chance at being the Republican candidate just by mentioning Mexican's, not that he really had a chance. Border control is becoming more and more important as the country becomes overpopulated and flooded with state funded families.
     
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    I dont even know when was the last time I've been to the Bronx. WTF is up there (not a Yankee fan)?
     
  11. Poeman

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    The bronx zoo, thats about it.
     
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    Bronx Zoo, Botanical Gardens, City Island, Arthur Ave. Van Cortland Park, Pelham Bay Park and Bartow-Pell Mansion to mention a few things[​IMG]
     
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    Arthur Avenue.

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    Also City Island.
     
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    So I checked the website, and if they find outside beer, soft drinks or liquor they will confiscate it. Food also can not be brought onto the course. I hope they go under.
     
  16. Yisman

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    I despise places like that.

    Expensive enough to begin with.
     
  17. Dierking

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    Riverdale ain't too shabby either.
     
  18. The Waterboy

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    Beat you to it brother, helps that many of those were my old stomping grounds.
     
  19. The Waterboy

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    Throggs Neck has some really nice homes also. Plus all the small beach clubs up and down the water there, cheap beers and drinks, at least it used to be cheap.
     
  20. JStokes

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    Yea but did you ever kayak there? :D

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