I highlighted just a few of your "leaps of faith." All these things occur to everyone, not just the pious. There is only a connection between them and "god" in your mind. Don't try to use any of this nonsense to justify or rationalize that which can not be. And you sound confused - is the guy's name Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus? Isn't there a comma missing, or something?
What happened before the Big Bang? The Big Bang Theory tells us that there was literally nothing, no matter, energy, space, or even time. So what does that leave for a possible explanation? For something to happen, something must exist to act or be acted upon. Think about it. Otherwise, the universe as we know it is impossible. Your existence, and my existence, everything we see, and everything we experience must not really exist, because its existence is impossible. Nice theory. At least what most people believe is that there is some cause for the universe to exist. ...or what about the fact that there is order in the universe? Everything works together in a harmonious way. For example, our organ systems all work together in just the right way to support life. The physical constants in the universe are precisely fine-tuned to such a degree that if one single constant were different by just a tiny bit, life on earth would be impossible. Now I know the atheists argue that just by chance, given the trillions of years since the universe began, there was enough time for our solar system to come about the way it is. But when you think about it, is it really logical to assume that countless random events could come together in such a way as to produce a world where so many systems work together in an intricate web, where everything is dependent on everything else in carefully ordered, specific ways, and this order is sustained for thousands of years? It seems to me that order could not have realistically arisen from pure chance, since order requires a directed overall outcome of individual chance events. If everything were random, on such a large scale enough outcomes that don't work ("mess things up") would happen over time to undermine the order. ...or what about the human brain? It's composed of a massive number of neurons, nerve cells, that transmit an electrochemical message. Ions transmit an electrical signal that ends in terminal branches, which release chemicals called neurotransmitters, which cross tiny gaps called synapses, bind to dendrites, and stimulate the same electrochemical response in the next neuron (I have a Bio degree, and I used to teach Biology). All of these neurons function in the same basic way, and there is nothing there but an electrical signal, and chemical substances. So how can we form abstract thoughts, and how do we explain things like love, and hate, from a brain that is basically a mechanical structure designed to move the body, detect physical sensations, allow us to make sounds which we use to form words, etc. The most science can tell us is that there must be "residues" from these electrochemical signals passed on by the neurons, but does this make sense? How can "residues" form complex thoughts, emotions, etc? Or they simply refer to it as an "epiphenomenon of brain activity", which simply means something arising from brain activity, which of course doesn't really explain anything. Doing a little more research online, I found that scientists still have basically no idea how consciousness, let alone abstract concepts like "love", can arise from a physical brain, an electrochemical organ..... ......If you are interested, check it out for yourself, do all the research you want. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how does the brain give rise to thoughts ...so while we have no equipment that can detect the spiritual or supernatural (despite what TV will tell you, there are no real life "Ghostbusters" lol!), there is so much in our experience of the world that can't be explained by a purely physical universe. When you really think about all you experience as a human being, is it rational to assume that it all came from some combination of matter, energy, electricity, or any other physical entities, in a purely random way? Not to mention the question of where this universe came from in the first place, which I already discussed above....
Again, "we don't know" doesn't equal God. Nothing you ever write comes even remotely close to providing proof or evidence of god.
No, we DO know from science that what I said before is true. You just don't see it, or don't want to acknowledge it. ..... and before you accuse me of saying that "Science can prove God exists," let me clarify; Science proves that nothing comes from nothing. Besides the fact that this is just basic common sense, the law of the conservation of matter and energy states that neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed, they just changed forms. Einstein supported this, and also showed how matter can transform into energy, and vice versa. But where did this matter/energy come from in the first place? Science knows that the creation of matter and/or energy from nothing is impossible, therefore the explanation must lie outside of science. That is an indisputable fact, unless all that science knows and is based on is wrong.
I've never heard a nonbeliever say that suffering can be a good thing. Or that we would not have life without God. And the third thing you highlighted was a non-religious way that the human body sometimes lessens the suffering of those who appear to us to have suffered to an extreme extent. It was just additional support of how God might make sure that nobody suffers more than they can handle. And again, free will dictates that there will be unjust suffering in this life; true justice and the absence of suffering and distress only occurs in Heaven. But again, this life is extremely short in comparison to an eternity of peace, joy, and happiness. As to your second question, Christ is not Jesus' last name, lol. Christ is a title given to Jesus, indicating that He is the Divine Savior of the world. That's why He is sometimes referred to as Jesus the Christ, or Christ Jesus, or, as in the title of Mel Gibson's movie, "The Passion of the Christ".
No, I never said that, you keep putting words in my mouth. I just said that something outside of science must be involved. Whether you choose to call that "God", or a supernatural force, or some other entity which science cannot detect, that's your choice. But science will never be able to explain the origin of the universe, because that would contradict the very basic, foundational laws upon which all of science is based. Or, put another way, science tells us that nothing comes from nothing, science also tells us that before the Big Bang there was nothing, and yet, given enough time, you somehow think that science will be able to tell us how something in fact did come from nothing?! That makes no sense, obviously. It's completely illogical: A) Nothing comes from nothing B) Before the Big Bang there was nothing C) But "we just don't know yet" how something came from nothing. That's your argument.
The "argument" of the atheist in a nutshell, lol. .... That was a funny and highly entertaining movie though, one of my all-time favorites.
For the sake of this argument, and for the sake of this argument only, I will concede that nothing can come from nothing. For the sake of this argument, I will concede that a supernatural power created the universe. That doesn't prove the existence of Yahweh or Jesus. All it does it beg the question of what is a supernatural power. Is it a sentient being? Is it a computer? Is it an alien? Fin!
Do you understand that the atheist position is not an argument? The atheist position is "I do not believe in your claim of a god." That isn't an argument, it's a challenge. What do you use as your argument for the non-existence of the thousands of other gods from various religions? That's my "argument" against yours.
im not an atheist. i do believe that something created this universe, but it's certainly not anything that people from 2 thousand years ago that lived in caves make it out to be, and im fine not knowing what it is or whats going to happen in the next life, if there is a next life.
How about a little honesty here? You really have never heard people say that losing a job, overcoming an illness or experiencing the death of a family member made them a stronger person or inspired them to make positive changes in their lives? Have you been living under a rock? The whole quote to respond to is " how much we rely on God. We would not have life without God, and we rely on God's help in our lives in ways that we often overlook." Most people do not rely on god or his help in our lives - that's your projection of your life onto others. And it is the body's physiological response that protects it from damage, not god's alleviating anything. My title might be Mister Smith, just don't try to call me Smith Mister or Smith the Mister. Do you really think that mentioning Mel Gibson adds anything to your argument? Here's a newsflash for you - that movie is FICTION!
