i dont know, revis makes plenty of plays himself. 23 picks and 3 touchdowns. sherman has 24 picks and 2 touchdowns in 2 less seasons, but he also played alot in a turnover happy NFC west his career.
Revis dominated the NFL in 2009. led his team to an afc championship game with one of the ugliest offesnes and crappiest QBs around. where did the texans go last year? What revis did that season was unreal. week after week eliminating half the field and shutting down all pros left and right
The reason Revis had the great year in 2009 was that Rex forced people to throw at him. Most of the time a great shutdown CB takes his man out of the game and then his team plays 10-on-10 from there. Rex went blitz-happy and gave opposing QB's no time to make decisions. They mostly did what a QB will do when that happens, throwing the ball at either their best receiver or a check down. Revis was the 4th most targeted CB in the NFL that year with more than a hundred passes sent his way. That amplified his value dramatically, since a great player who actually gets a chance to make plays is very valuable. None of his seasons since then has had quite the same impact because people now know to avoid him unless he falls down or something like that. Only the really quick and fast receivers that can avoid his chuck at the line and then make him pay for playing up close get him these days. J.J. Watt is a more valuable player at this point and has a greater impact on the game. However the Texans are a fairly poor franchise in terms of overall talent. Until they flesh out the roster or can somehow force teams to run at Watt more than they'd like too he's not going to have the kind of impact Revis had on that great 2009 Jets roster that was just missing a QB.
His performance vs Calvin Johnson (held him to like 1-2 catches for under 10 yards or so) was still one of the best games I've ever seen a CB play. I mean I don't study all cornerbacks or anything like that but to lock down Calvin Johnson like that, take him out of the game like that, even though Stafford tried to get him the ball plenty, the disadvantage in terms of size/speed which didn't make a difference...that was just amazing overall. One of my all time favorite plays. Just a deflection but who does that to prime Megatron. Who else but Revis.
Not sure where you are getting your numbers from, but in 2009 Revis had 31 passes defended and 6 INT's. So where did those other 63+ passes go that you claim? In 2009, teams avoided throwing at Revis like the plague.
^ More bullshit from an ignorant rival fan. Br4d was wrong though, Revis was tied for third most in the league in 2011 with 111 targets, he wasn't fourth https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/25/shutdown-corners-richard-sherman-v-darrelle-revis/
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2010/stat-day-2009-cb-charting-stats Revis had 94 passes thrown his way in 2009. Passes defended are just the ones where the CB actually prevents his man from catching the ball. Balls that are not catchable are not included. Balls the WR catches are not included. Balls the WR drops are not included.
He was 4th in 2009. The 3 CB's above him all were all bad, which is what you expect to see out of a guy targeted that much. It's Revis presence on the #1 on the opposing team that gets him the high number of targets when he's that high. In 2010 Revis had just 57 targets against him, a result of his early season injury (holdout) and teams testing Cro big time. Cro had 102 targets that year.
I used PFF. I'm not sure anybody else is keeping the numbers for public distribution. There are so many football stats that are nearly impossible to get unless you are charting yourself. It reminds me of baseball in the 70's before Bill James and ESPN opened up the floodgates.
if the jets did blitz as you say that doesnt force teams to throw at revis. you cant blitz and double team everyone but revis guy, you dont have 15 guys on defense. blitzing forces a throw, but not at revis. forcing throws revis way would be rushing 3 or 4 and doubling the WR on the other side of the field. even if it DID force throws at revis, the fact that he had an sinane amount of passes thrown his way and STILL shutdown those elite guys makes the feat even more amazing. revis not being thrown at as a result is an ever bigger impact, as you cut the field in half and dont need a safety over there, allowing 1 more guy to rush or 1 more guy to double team, buzz, spy, etc somewhere else. watt is a great player but last year he was nowhere clsoe to the impact of '09 revis. saying the texas franchise is poor is a joke, considering what the jets teams have had under recieve, the worst qb play in football weak wideouts and an overall pathetic offense.
I've looked a little bit to see if this has been mentioned before, forgive me if it has. But has anybody seen Revis' new icon on twitter of that Jets helmet? Does anybody think it's a hint at a new helmet or just something he thought was cool?
I was thinking about starting a thread about it, considering it's the dead season and all. I think a black alternate uniform of some sort would be awesome; green + black is such a cool combo.
The Jets were the #1 blitz team in the NFL in 2009 at somewhere between 52.4% and 57.1% of the time depending on whose figures you use. The average team blitzed somewhere between 33.4% and 34.1%, again depending on whose numbers you use. The reason people threw at Revis as much as they did is that the hot read didn't have time to get in position and the outlets were often unavailable also. If you're going to blind throw the ball at somebody you throw at your #1 preferentially because he's the guy who comes through for you the most in the clutch. This was a huge topic during the season, both the Jets blitz-happy ways and the effect it was having on Revis season since he had ball after ball coming at him and he was mostly shutting things down. It's surprising that 5 years later we've mostly forgotten that. During the playoffs we got beat by the QB who had a 1a and a 1b and a 2a and a 2b and also a 3 he wasn't afraid to throw at under pressure. That's what finally got us.
no no what finally got us is that were had a terrible offense and could go toe to toe with the best qb in football. we were a fraud 9 win team and eventually it struck midnight and we got beat by a real conender. the following yea rin pittsburg, it was the run defense that bit us.
Peyton Manning put up 3 passing TD's and 377 yards in the air against the #1 pass defense. Colts receivers had 151, 123, and 55 yards. The TE had 55 more. It was a classic case where a #1 CB meant nothing at all because Manning just threw where he wasn't and won the game. That winter the Jets went batshit crazy adding CB's for Rex, with Kyle Wilson the #1 pick and Antonio Cromartie a priority trade. The Steelers said "CB's? You're going to try to beat us with CB's?" and ran the Jets into the ground in the AFC Championship game. It was a classic case of the Jets loading up to win the last war and having Panzers run over them in the snow instead.
How do you feel about our current defense, then. Our run D should theoretically be just as good as it has been since 2013, if not better. Our passing D should be our team's biggest improvement, depending on injury and the capacity for Revis and Cro to play at high levels consistently. Our biggest conceens are probably at safety and LB (mostly OLB) but overall how do you feel our D will be? Just curious.
Last season I thought I heard on the radio that wasn't allowed anymore, all alternate uniforms have to wear the same helmet which is why the Jets don't wear the Titans unis anymore and why the Bucs weren't allowed to wear the creamsicles. I'll see if I can find a link Edit: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/cowboys-thanksgiving-thowback-jerseys
