No, the government should go out to their houses and force IDs on them. Laziness should have more benefits. _
It ain't. People aren't going to walk five miles to a DMV and wait 2 hours. You ever been to one? And why should they have to in order to vote. So if you want ID make it easy and free to get one. You register people and give them a picture ID at the same time. In their neighborhood. At convenient times. It's easy for you but not a lot of people. It's estimated in Wisconsin that over 300,000 people don't vote because they have such tough voter ID laws. Is there voter fraud? Very very low. Who doesn't vote? Mostly minorities. People Scott Walker doesn't want to vote. If they had he'd be out.
I have been to the dmv plenty. It sucks but you deal with it. If you can't overcome that tremendous obstacle then you don't need to vote
There should be no obstacles esp intentional ones for voting. It's your right. Btw both parties have historically helped people to register and even driven them to the polls. So what you're saying is if they can't jump through Scott Walker's hoops (like walk 5 miles to DMV because they don't have a car) they don't deserve to vote.
Bull shit. Far too many people vote already. The day of the (even moderately) informed citizen is long passed. Voting, is a responsibility. You are governing your country when you step into a ballot box. Elongated Voting is bullshit, as is voting by mail (except in actual absentee circumstances). If voting ...(as you posit by minorities...) should be so readily available... Let's take January 19th of the Federal holiday calendar, and make Election day a Federal Holiday, I could get behind that. But all of these elongate the vote schemes, are tools of the Democrat party to increase uninformed voter turnout. Fact. The low information voter is the lifeblood of the democrat party, and ...the rancorous protests you routinely see. Take Motor Voter. Why do you think dems want illegals to have drivers licenses? SEIU, The Rainbow coalition, and The NAN live off the LIV. And as far as voter ID goes....Utility bills are usually acceptable... I'll take any random ten tea party patriots, against any ten SEIU members in a civics quiz any day of the week... /rant... Bottom line... If the responsibility of governing your country is too much of a hassle to scare up a 20, or take the trip to DMV, etc... Maybe... You shouldn't be electing people. We've come a long way from discriminating by limiting the vote to property owners.
Simply. Yes. It takes a couple hours to walk 5 miles and back. If that is too much to ask, to make your voice heard, then STFU. And (as you pointed out) either party will come and register you....so...if you have a cell phone bill (obamaphones) or any other public utility bill...you're still good to go. And FWIW...I've been voting for 33 years. The first time I was ever asked for ID, outside of a new residence (polling place) during a presidential season, was in an all white community,...
P.S. You think voting is a right...yep, that's what you're taught. But that is balderdash. It is a privilege secured by the blood of fellow Americans. Good people die for it. You can try for it...
You're funny Hobbes. You sound just like Animal Farm. "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."
I'm guessing didn't actually...you know...read...the book.... The aggrieved in our society are more equal than the rest.... (which is the undercurrent of the story) (Here's a little clue where Orwell comes down on this..) In modern day Amerika, who gets that kind of Press?
Who controls Amerika? The aggrieved like those guys who don't even make $10.10 an hour. Or the 1%? Kind of hard to believe why any non billionaire would support them.
America? Try the world. And it's not the 1%. That's why in this country, once a politician gets elected, they will crawl over their mothers to stay in DC.. It's the cheapest way in.
I think if you have to walk 5 miles to the DMV and/or can't afford a car then maybe you need to get your shit together and have more important things to worry about than voting. Then again, I guess you need to vote for your entitlements so that is pretty important
What I like about some of you is that you're not in denial like most of the phony baloney Repubs and the Tea Party are. You support any means possible of denying people you don't like the right to vote. You think all of these methods like redistricting, voter ID, shorter hours at the polls are ok. To your way of thinking they shouldn't be allowed to vote period.
I don't think stupid people should be allowed to vote. That is a separate issue Don't put words in my mouth. Redistricting and shorter poll hours I don't agree with. But the idea that requiring a photo ID to vote is an unnecessary burden on people is taking things too far. Why not just set up an internet poll to decide elections and just trust people to be honest. And just because there isn't a voter fraud problem(not convinced there isn't) doesn't mean the potential isn't there for it to be a problem. Everybody forgets the reason why laws are there in the first place until the shit hits the fan. Like we haven't recently had elections decided by hundreds of votes
Wouldn't it just be simpler to have every disenfranchised and poor lazy soul have their vote automatically counted as a vote for the "Democrat" for every election and every candidate unless they opt out? Why make them go through the hassle of actually having to go to the polls to vote? Their laziness and being poor cries out for this solution. _
