It's laughable trying to write off the Crusades and Inquisition as a defensive move, Notruth4u2. This thread has jumped the shark.
And Catholic Priests were just protecting the nearly 20,000 of those little children they were buggering. _
The Crusades and the Inquisition are probably the most misunderstood events in history. Those who try to use them to bash the Catholic Church are the same kind of people who try to claim the Holocaust never happened, or 9/11 was some massive U.S. conspiracy. I've already proven that with my previous posts, but some will just dismiss whatever facts they find inconvenient to their twisted argument. Sad really. There will always be people out there, I suppose, with psychological blocks that prevent them from recognizing or acknowledging the truth about religion.
Once again, the facts expose your lies... "FACT: Catholic priests abuse at a rate far lower than that of other males in the general population. Read more Notwithstanding the media hysteria over sex abuse in the Catholic Church, priests abuse at a rate far lower than that of other males. While even one case of abuse is too many, approximately only 4% of all active priests between 1950 and 2002 were even accused of abuse – a rate far lower than that of other males in the general population." THE GRAND CONSPIRACY THAT WASN'T FACT: You would never know it from the media's lurid and obsessive coverage, but the vast bulk of reported cases of abuse stem only from a historical anomaly, as most allegations occurred during only a small sliver of time during the Sexual Revolution from the 1960s to the early 1980s. And despite media suggestions of dark conspiracies and cover-ups, the Church – like every other institution at the time – simply followed the then-prevailing view of experts in the field that offenders could be successfully rehabilitated and sent accused priests off for treatment, rather than reporting them to police, which resulted in a temporary spike in recidivism. Read more THE REAL NEWS: CURRENT ACCUSATIONS AGAINST CATHOLIC PRIESTS ARE EXTREMELY RARE FACT: Almost all accusations against Catholic priests date from many decades ago, and indeed nearly half of all abuse accusations concern priests who are already long dead. In a body of 77 million people, contemporaneous accusations of abuse against Catholic clergy in the United States are very rare, recently averaging only 8 allegations deemed "credible" by review boards each year. THE STORY THE MEDIA WON'T REPORT: THE EPIDEMIC OF ABUSE AND COVER-UPS GOING ON TODAY IN OUR OWN PUBLIC SCHOOLS FACT: The incidence of sexual abuse by teachers in public schools today has been estimated to be "more than 100 times" that by Catholic priests, and there is alarming evidence of school officials covering up abuse and failing to report suspected cases to authorities. Yet the mainstream media has largely ignored this shocking story while still rehashing decades-old allegations of abuse by Catholic priests. Read more THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY: A MODEL FOR THE PROTECTION OF CHILDREN FACT: The Catholic Church is likely the safest environment for children today. Read more http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/ This article is from Newsweek, 2010 (back when people mistakenly thought many Priests were child molesters)... "Priests Commit No More Abuse Than Other Males The Catholic sex-abuse stories emerging every day suggest that Catholics have a much bigger problem with child molestation than other denominations and the general population. Many point to peculiarities of the Catholic Church (its celibacy rules for priests, its insular hierarchy, its exclusion of women) to infer that there's something particularly pernicious about Catholic clerics that predisposes them to these horrific acts. It's no wonder that, back in 2002—when the last Catholic sex-abuse scandal was making headlines—a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests "frequently'' abused children. Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. "I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others." http://www.newsweek.com/priests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625
Wait.... We are now comparing priests to males of general population?? I thought priests were special, connected to God folks. The ones who are suppose to spread the good word, set example...
Holy fuck you are a moron. Priests are supposed to PROTECT their flock, not fuck its youngest most vulnerable sheep. You are comparing priests to thugs and rapists and dirtbags and creeps and regular normal scumbags. Priests should be BETTER than normal scumbags. Holy fuck. _
Real Priests are, but the Catholic Church was too lenient in the past in admitting people to the Seminary. They used to let practically anyone in, and so a small number of head cases got in and started molesting children. These were sick individuals, posing as Priests to get easy access to children. Who knows how many of the 4% of Priests who were accused of molesting children were actually guilty, but these were not really Priests, they were criminals or the clinically insane posing as Priests. Now, fortunately, the Catholic Church has corrected the problem, and they are now very selective and very careful about who they accept into their seminaries. They perform extensive psychological testing on every applicant, as well as background checks. Today, your children are much safer with a Priest than with a teacher, coach, or even their friends' parents. As the statistics show, your child is 100 times more likely to be molested by their teacher than by a Priest. Of course we've always known that Priests are the best role models for kids....when I was growing up, nobody even dreamed that a Priest would harm a child in any way. In fact, at my parish, parents used to send their kids to religious education led by a Priest during mass; while the adults were celebrating mass, another Priest would lead a large group of children downstairs in the basement of the church! And there was never a problem, in fact the kids would emerge happy and joyful, no sign of anything wrong, no priest was ever accused of any wrongdoing. Don't forget, the "word on the street" is that the Catholic Church has "deep pockets", so it seems more than likely that some, if not most, of these accusations, alleged incidents from the 1960's to the 1980's that only surfaced decades later in the 21st century, could be attempts to sue the Church and extort money. Very few of these accusations were ever substantiated. They all popped up in the early 2000's when it became "trendy" to attack the church and accuse Priests. Let's not be naive here. (btw, Stalin once said that the best way to destroy the church was to get people into the Priesthood to destroy it from within). Hmmm....
Yup, not REAL Catholic priest, just the rookies and the noobies. Fucking BISHOPS have sexually abused children. BISHOPS! _
Truth was obviously molested by a priest when he was a youngster. It totally explains why he has this outsized need to rationalize and justify his religious beliefs to anonymous strangers on the internet. This is scientific reasoning, you cannot argue with me.
You posting your deluded version where the Catholic church was not at fault in no way proves anything. The Crusades were a war sanctioned by the pope. Alexius Comnenus asked the Pope for mercenaries to fight the Turks even though he was just looking to take more of Byzantine after seizing their throne. So he was already out taking other peoples land and just wanted the churches help taking more, that is not defense. How about Emicho, who's band of marauders massacred Jews in the Rhineland, how is that defensive? What is sad is that you are so blinded by your faith that you refuse to see the truth. The Spanish Inquisition is another prime example, Spain issued an edict that all Jews must convert or leave the country, from 2000-5000 killed for practicing another faith? Sounds similarly like another organization currently in the news. I have no psychological blocks and know more than I need to know about religion. What I do know is that those that profess to be fully hooked by the book are in many cases the most full of shit.
Aha... Real priests are good, and the bad ones are not real. This is a REALly convenient definition... So it wasn't the work of God that selected those wise men who would lead His flock? How did He let the Most Impure into His house? Does that mean Church (as institution) is actually a separate entity from God? Be careful here, oh scientific one, because here you are, about to concede the point people were pounding you on for the last 15 pages. Yeah, I'm 10,000 times more likely to be struck by a car than by a lightening. Should I conclude that God doesn't care about this heresy I'm typing? Maybe that's because they didn't know? Wonder if those parents would be so willing to let the kids go if they knew about the "4%". Goodell has money, Trump has money, Bush has money... wonder why nobody is acusing them of molesting kids. Maybe that's because they don't? Nah, it's probably because people love the commish, admire Donald's hair piece and are universally voting R. And Lenin said that religion is opiate of the masses. What are you smoking?
Another stupid remark but by this time it is expected. The problem with this statement is, even if it is true, they were expected to answer to a "higher power", priests are put in a position of trust and they took advantage of that trust. There is also the fact it was covered up so long no one knows how many cases are unaccounted for, to say the rate is "far lower" is more bullshit since there is no true accounting on either side.
Just stop already, you are just embarrassing yourself. It takes 8 years minimum to become a priest so no one was going through that so they could "pose as Priests to get easy access to children". They were priests, priests who broke the law by molesting young boys, you don't get to write them off as criminals who "snuck in" to the priesthood just because you think it makes your argument sound better (BTW, your argument sucks either way). There is just so much wrong with this whole post, priest were obviously not the best role models, role models don't rape little boys. Sure parents used to send the kids down to the church basement and they may have come up mostly smiles unless the priest took a liking to them, then the priest would explain that little Johnny wasn't playing well with the other children and that is why he is unhappy, of course the priest let little Johnny know what would happen if he told anyone so Johnny did not tell anyone until his therapist 15 years later when he was already a mess. Yes, it's all Stalin's fault, dumbass.
Right. And there was no campaign to cover up the misdeeds of whatever number of perverted priests? No transferring of the clergy to distant parishes with no warning to the new victims? No organized plan by the hierarchy to hide the offenders from the eye of the law? Nonsense.
forget it, it's futile. you are dumber than clamspit. or maybe not dumb, just so tunnel vision close minded to any rational thought whatsoever that you've been brainwashed to the point of being thoroughly hucklefucked for life. im sorry for you. i really am. enjoy those chains you have on. i digress, i m sorry.
Lies, lies, and more lies by Catholic bashers. That's all that garbage you spew is. Most people, fortunately, know this. BTW, there has been great progress in Catholic-Jewish relations. Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis, two amazing men, have had a great deal to do with this. The Catholic Church and Judaism consider each other "brothers", most Catholics nowadays understand that Jews are our brothers and allies. That's the truth. But if you prefer to learn about religion from these idiots, well that's your choice ... lol. For those who forgot about South Park after its stupid 15 minutes of infamy (that would be most of us), those degenerates are Matt Parker and Trey Stone, who continue to spew filth on Comedy Central. Sadly, some people have allowed their view of religion to be twisted by these fools.
