as i get older i look at these athletes and really wonder what the hell goes thru their mind and who is feeding them the BS. of course the jets want him around and of course they will, or have made, offers. they have to do it within the framework of wilks performance history AND building a competitive team that has a shot to win. not saying wilk is playing martyr here but judging by a few comments it looks like he could be headed there......next thing we'll here is the jets have to take care of me cause he needs to feed his family. Ouch.
I don't know the details of the new CBA, can you shed some light on this for me, is there a penalty for holding out? Can it be used against the player during contract negotiations? I'm being serious Axel
We'd all have the same reaction. Athletes have a very short shelf life. Every snap could be his last snap, every next snap could cost him millions if he gets hurt. These guys want security and he just wants to be secured, get his payday and then move on. He's in a bad spot right now, he can't afford to get injured and he's watching all these guys around him that he feels like he's better than or at the same level get paid like crazy. Of course he's upset, I would be, you would be, we all would. He's just human.
I may honestly stop rooting for the Jets after this year. I'm really starting to feel that this organization will never be consistently successful. Not signing No will be a hard pill to swallow...he deserves more money. I understand everbody can't get max contracts...not given him more money should only be because they can't afford it not for any other strategic unknown unproven purpose or player. I also truly believe Sheldon will leave once he becomes a free agent based on their treatment of Mo. He seems like that kind of guy. If we were champions and perennial contenders...like the Pats...I could understand but we have been in the dark ages in terms of team building...the renaissance is upon us...fire has been discovered...will we remain in the darkness?
I don't think he's upset...just aware of the reality of the sport and knows he has earned more money.
Deserves got nothing to do with it. It is about winning. Earned? My my. These folks who just love their individual Jet players would keep us in salary cap hell AND the bottom half of our division for time immemorial if they had their way.
How is he in a bad spot, exactly? How many million has he already made? He's due $7 million this year. If that isn't security, then he's a complete and utter dumbass or has sniffed it all up his nose or spent it on hos. I understand that he wants security, but he should already have that. I know they want to try and make as much as they can while they can precisely for the reasons you mentioned, but he has made a lot of money already. I know ego and pride is always a factor, and I can't blame him for wanting to get his since he has been a great Jet and great citizen, and some of the new guys haven't done jack yet. That's why I think he should have been paid already if his salary requests/demands aren't ridiculous. He can afford to get injured. He's under contract for this year and wil be paid. Even if he never played another down, he should be set for life.
I disagree. It has everything to do with it. He has outperformed his contract, and just wants to be locked up long term. He's seen a lot of new player brought in who aren't as good as him and they're getting big money. I can't blame him for wanting a new contract. Just because fans think he deserves to be paid doesn't mean that would keep the team in cap hell if he were to get paid. Get real. Mac could have easily signed Mo at any time. The money was there. He didn't have to bring in 4 new DBs and a bunch of other vet FAs. I appreciate that he's wanting to improve competition and make the team better, but Rome wasn't built in a day. It bothers me a little that he's being as aggressive (foolhardy?) as Tanny, just in a little different way. Unless Williams dominates from day 1, Mo will help this team more than Gilchrist, Ridley, and the other vet FAs combined.
The problem simply put is that when you measure Muhammad Wilkerson against his peers he comes up as maybe the tenth most valuable defensive lineman at this point. Not the most valuable, like J.J. Watt. Not the most valuable interior lineman like Ndamukung Suh. The tenth most valuable overall. That's a great player but it's not a guy you pay like he's one of the three best defensive linemen in the NFL. The Cameron Jordan contract is a much better comp for rewarding a home-grown player who is the tenth best at what he does. If Mo was on the open market he might well get the kind of contract he's looking for from a bad team looking to improve itself by poaching talent on the open market at the cost of cap space. For the record, the defensive linemen who I think are better than Mo at this point: J.J. Watt Ndamukung Suh Marcel Dareus Robert Quinn The guys who I think are take one or the other and you don't lose: Sheldon Richardson Gerald McCoy Cameron Jordan Geno Atkins There are other guys later in their careers who are in the conversation also in Mario Williams and Calais Campbell and Chris Long but I wouldn't take any of them over Mo despite similar value for next season. The point is that if you can get Mo to take an $11M a year deal you do it, because he's a top ten defensive lineman. If he wants to be paid like he's part of the top 4, well that's just not happening. It makes no sense. It's like paying Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco as if they were Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, except you have no chance at all that Mo singlehandedly takes over the season and wins for the Jets.
What if Mo is just asking for too much money. Keep in mind we have no idea how much money he is demanding or the jets are willing to offer.
This 'waiting in darkness' bullshit is killin me. I liked it so much better when we had a mole in the FO leaking every other word to Mehta.
I respectfully disagree for two reasons. In no way so should Woody be involved in anything Macagnan is doing. As many TGGers say, the owner shouldn't have any say in football decisions. Secondly, this is a very different scenario. Revis was the best Cb in the NFL bar none and wanted to be paid that way. We didn't have any backup plan to replace him and our secondary suffered as a result. This time around you have a top 5 DE demanding to make JJ Watt money and they're not even the same type of player. We have an amazing line right now AND have drafted a guy projected to be as good. The Jets really have most of the leverage here. If Mo came back at a high, but reasonable price, I am sure we'd sign him by now.
It's just a lot more costly than it used to be "The league got a win in the new CBA as it pertains to holdouts. In an effort to prevent them, under the new CBA if player under contract fails to report to training camp, he is fined $30,000 per day by his club. That’s more than double the fine in the prior CBA which was $14,000 per day. On top of that, players who were drafted in the first round holdout in their 5th year (option year), they lose a game check for each pre-season game they miss. If “missing pre-season” sounds like small potatoes, think again: salaries in the option year are significantly high."
He does not deserve to get more then he is making now, you deserve to get what the contract you agreed too says you deserve. When a new contract is needed to extend your time if you earned a raise, which he has, then you should get a higher salary. If he holds out then trade him, dont need that in the locker room. Its a business not a charity, and believe me Big Mo is probably my favorite Jet.
Really? Where were you when ANY player was released? Why is it ok for the Jets to cut somebody 2 years into a 4 or 5 year deal they agreed to?
Mo needs to do some job searching and see how many jobs are out there are available for his skill set. He needs to stfu and do his job.
The "NFL is a business" mantra works both ways. Mo has far outplayed his rookie contract and deserves a raise and a long term deal, for someone who says he's your favorite Jet, you sound like you are arguing the opposite. Demaurice Smith threw rookie players under the bus with this fifth year option for rookie contracts when he failed to represent the players for the new CBA The real argument here is not "should Mo get a new contract" but "how much should Mo get paid" because aside from a few people that don't get it, it's pretty universally agreed upon that he deserves to get a new contract. And it's pretty safe to say that he won't be holding out because as it's been explained recently it's far too costly to the player under the new CBA to make any lengthy holdout
