Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Oh, the ironing.

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  2. Brook!

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    So tell me Mr Dierking. What makes me creepy? Me admitting I am a Muslim from Turkey? Me admitting I lived in USA since 2004 since my company moved me from Turkey office to USA office? Me admitting I lived in Madison, NJ? Me admitting having 2 lite boys who are twins. Me admitting not believing in religion?

    These are all the facts I have provided in my previous posts. What makes you think I am creepy?

    I really am not offended sir. But you are one of the posters I like and if I made you feel like I was creepy, that would make me upset.
     
  3. The Waterboy

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    You are really stepping up your game here and by that I mean your are sounding more and more idiotic.
     
  4. The Waterboy

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  5. RuJFan

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    Oh for crying out loud!!!

    There ALWAYS will be something science still can't explain. And this something will ALWAYS be attributed to Devine origin by Church.
    Being able to claim Devine = being able to keep up the story of God = being able to control masses. 1000 years ago the Earth is the center of the Universe because God made it so. 300 years ago there is Solar system because God made it so. 50 years ago DNA because God made it so. Now Big Bang was because God made it so.

    It does NOT mean there is no God, and does NOT mean there is a god. Belief is exactly what it is -- BELIEF. Nothing more. You either choose to belief without proof, or choose to not. There are and always were scientists who believed and priests who did not.

    And please spare me the 50 physicist who said something. It's just another movement of the goal post. Now "because God made it so" is the Big Bang. 100 years from now when origins of Big Bang are understood, it'll be something else.
     
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  6. The Waterboy

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    How can people believe in evolution when they've never seen Darwin in a piece of burnt toast?km
     
  7. Dierking

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    Don't overthink it.
     
  8. NYJetsO12

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    Yes, so I guess there is hope for the rest of us lol

    He was also learning disabled and sucked at math
     
  9. Brook!

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    Creepy guy

    What
    Fuck you Dierking. I thought you were man enought to handle a Kurdish Muslim from Turkey. You are piece of shit you know that. I thought you were a man. You are a sisy belly dancer my ass. Shame on you. Nilgun Ustundag just told me she raped you in the ass you sissy pussy.
     
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  10. TNJet

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    If there is a God who created everything we see in this world, I would give him a D-. Hell, just look at the:
    Platypus
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    I mean WTF??????
     
  11. The Waterboy

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    Plus it lays eggs and the male is poisonous. Strange creature.
     
  12. roger

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    I'd hit it.
     
  13. Truth4U2

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    You continue to just spew the baseless misconceptions about the Church. Myth #1: That it "is used to control people" .... the TRUTH is that the Catholic Church is the gateway to authentic personal freedom! Freedom from sin, addiction, etc, the freedom to love truly and authentically, the freedom to be the best version of yourself. (see Thomas Merton or Matthew Kelly, to name just a couple excellent writers, if you don't believe me). They make great arguments using facts, which always scare away the haters. (btw none of this is meant for you personally, it is a result of my frustration with posters who just hurl childish insults without any shred of thought, facts, evidence, or reason.)

    As for the science vs. religion debate (not much of a debate anymore actually, if you read up on it....most scientists now understand that science and religion are complementary, and don't contradict each other, when both are properly understood.

    But, using all we know about science, it is impossible for the big bang to have caused itself. And prior to the big bang, scientists agree there was literally nothing, no time, space, matter, or energy...no entity of any kind, simply nothing. And again, I ask anyone with a working knowledge of science, how can something come from nothing, apart from a supernatural explanation? Again, science cannot prove the supernatural, but it can prove the NEED for a supernatural. (science + basic common sense, that is)

    (and btw, I never meant to suggest that there is nothing left for science to discover....just that there is a lot less we don't know, and what we DO know seems to prove the necessity of some kind of supernatural origin of the universe).

    PLEASE, by all means, if anyone can explain to me how the universe could have emerged out of nothing, using science alone, please enlighten me, and the rest of us believers! :)
     
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  14. BrowningNagle

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    There is nothing more annoying than when religious kooks somehow talk like they're a theoretical physicist.

    You don't know shit about science. Let's clear that up first. You fill in the blanks with what you don't know with God. That's fine, I do that as well, but seriously don't assume just because you don't know shit and fill in the blanks that way, that others should do what you do.

    Ill give you credit for one thing: you acknowledge the Big Bang, for some reason that's not always the case with religious freaks.

    But It's literally impossible for someone to "prove" with science that the Big Bang was started by something other than a God, because the scientific laws of our universe were established in the big bang!

    you have no idea that the Big Bang emerged out of nothing.. It could have definetely been something! There couldve been numerous big bangs for example.. Or a universe with much different scientific laws...This is where you are entering your beliefs. That's fine but just know that, that is strictly all it is.
     
  15. BrowningNagle

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    I always think about the woman myself. Who puts the playground so close to the sanitation system??
     
  16. Dierking

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    "The Catholic Church is the gateway to authentic personal freedom."

    "Tom Brady told me he is innocent."
     
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  17. RuJFan

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    There are numerous examples throughout history when Church was used as any other structure of power - to control and conform masses. It does not mean the basic rules of the game it propagated (shall not kill, shall not steal, etc) were not good.

    Fixed that for you.

    You didn't suggest it, you said it out loud.

    500 years ago you were saying:
    AGAIN
    Just because we can't explain something now, doesn't mean the explanation is supernatural.
     
  18. Ralebird

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    I think your biggest problem may simply be one of vocabulary. You are quite prone to using words like "truth" and "fact" where you simply mean your "opinion" or "belief." This cannot be changed simply by capitalizing or bolding, in fact, that accentuates just how wrong your usage is.

    For my money "the gateway to authentic personal freedom" is an open mind.
     
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  19. RuJFan

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    You want him to admit that his "truth" and "facts" are in reality just his opinion and belief? Good luck with that.
     
  20. The Waterboy

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    Please enlighten us how God could have emerged out of nothing.
     
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