Is Brady the Greatest QB of All Time?

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    He is trying to stain Montana's legacy to make Brady look better, a weak attempt at that. Patriots are habitual offenders.
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I think Joe is a close #2, nothing against Joe but while he won w/o Rice he never won w/o Rice AND Walsh. Both confessed cheaters that helped Joe win. Same flawed logic as trying to take away from Brady..


    Montana on this issue:

    hmmm, interesting.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-tom-brady-ordered-footballs-to-be-deflated/
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    so were the Niners and I would bet all franchises too.

    Nothing being stained, Joe is right there just behind Brady. That's nothing to be ashamed about.
     
  4. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Of course. Brady used to be top 5, but now with this cheating taint, he's barely borderline.

    But he was never the GOAT.

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  5. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    And you wonder why people attack you, this is the comment a teenage girl would make after she was made captain of the JV cheerleading squad. There are no facts to back up Brady being the best because it's all an opinion. It's not like saying it's a fact that Rickey Henderson stole 1406 bases in his career. That is a fact and cannot be disputed.
     
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    Nah, Joe Montana is the clear cut #1 GOAT QB. Walsh was a great HC, great offensive mind, a QB can't do it alone, Brady needed kickers and tapes to win SBs. Montana at worst needed help from his HC - wow.

    At the end of the day, MONTANA did NOT cheat - so stop trying to stain Montana's legacy.


    “If I ever want a ball a certain way, I don’t do it myself," - Montana does not tell anyone to do anything; Brady is absolutely behind deflating the footballs. The problem here is that Brady is hiding like a little girl and refuses to cooperate which to me says he was more involved then you think.

    This quote does nothing for your argument.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Ouch.

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    Again, JOE MONTANA DID NOT CHEAT. You have a hard time comprehending.

    Even if Brady didn't cheat, Montana is STILL clear cut #1 OF ALL TIME - that cannot be disputed.

    Just admit Junc, you have lost this debate, be a man and own up, move on. You will gain so much more respect from your peers.
     
  9. pclfan

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    Don't go crazy about Brady's legacy. While he's HOF don't continue to overrate him. His behavior during this whole deal: he's a shithead. As for tarnishing his legacy. I don't believe it will. Just because the Fire Idzik morons and others are renting billboards. The extent of Jets fans hatred for NEP is mind boggling. It even surprises me. And I'm someone who truly despises them.
     
  10. JStokes

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    He never cheated.

    The deflection used to be--Jerry Rice cheated! Until it was pointed out that Jerry Rice was in HS when Montana won his first SB MVP and Rice was in college when Montana won his 2nd SB MVP.

    Then the deflection became BILL WALSHbalhblahblah.

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  11. pclfan

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    We don't know if Montana ever cheated. He wasn't caught, we know that. But if you asked him I think you'd get no reply: just that mischievous little grin of his. IMO though all of these guys adjusted balls to their personal specs. But not to the extent and with the treachery that Brady and his organization did. And I truly believe that Belichick knew about it. And probably gave Brady the idea in the first place.
     
  12. nyjunc

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    SB wins, SB apps, div titles, TDs, elevating teams, turning around a franchise and HC are not facts? those are opinions? it was all a coincidence I guess. You convinced me. good job Miano!

    the ones who sound like teenage girls are the whiners doing everything they can to take away credit from a team and player they hate.
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    at no point did I ever say just Jerry Rice, reading is difficult for you.

    I always pointed out Rice AND Walsh.

    what they did is not a big deal just as what NE did is not a big deal.
     
  14. HackettSuxTNG

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    Said the worst among us.
     
  15. The Waterboy

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    What is interesting? That Montana, like everyone else, knows that Br*dy was completely behind having the balls tampered with. Are you trying to make this statement into Montana saying he tampered with balls.
     
  16. nyjunc

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    he handled it the wrong way, doesn't takw away form him being an all time great and possibly the greatest of all time.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you mean the best and someone who isn't a phony like the rest of you.
     
  18. JStokes

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    I wasn't talking to you.

    Besides, you always started out with Rice then backtracked to Walsh.

    Believe what you want.

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  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it's interesting that Montana is saying he had others get them ready for his specifications just like Brady- just like EVERY QB.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    please, for once, stop lying.
     

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