Handed to us? You gotta be kidding! We beat the team, you "almost" beat, once in their home gym for gods sake. If you had any idea about how basketball is played, you would know how Duke got it done. It wasn't the refs. That's your blind envy talking. Duke attacked Wisconsin in the paint with their guards, Allen mostly, and that lead evaporated. Wisconsin choked. As a matter of fact, UNC should have beat Wisconsin but "Ole Roy" choked. Duke has pretty much had their way with your team on and off the court. I'm sure that makes you grit your teeth, but there isn't anything you can do about it except whine and cry "Duke cheated" like an 8 year old who is frustrated. Lol As far as playing and winning the right way, sorry Junc, we are all getting ready to see all about "The Carolina way". Your latest loss to Duke, Ingram choosing Duke,the better team, over your Heels, the lesser team, had a much bigger reason than playing time. The guy wanted to go to UNC but didn't because no one in or around the organization could answer the question pertaining to the NCAA investigation. Your team that does things "the right way", may blow up in your face.
you beat them b/c every bad call down the stretch went your way, they even looked on replay and blew it.
The play you are referring to was the out of bounds play that you believe Winslow touched. Even "If" the refs blew that call, that was the only controversial play. So let me get this straight, you think one call killed Wisconsins 9 point lead, and the refs had the foresight to hand it to them on one play? WOW Junc! You are a true Duke hater! You realize Duke was in major foul trouble and Wisonsin wasn't, right? Duke beat Wisconsin. Something UNC couldn't do. Re-watch the game and take off the Duke-hatred goggles. Hell, Okafor's first foul of the game, a bullshit charge because Frank the tank was moving and Okafor didn't lower his shoulder ( like whinesborogh did his entire college career ), should prove to you that the refs were not helping Duke. If the championship was handed to us, why was two of Duke's main big men sitting on the bench or shackled defensively, considered to be a help? Get real Junc, your argument skills are getting very very weak.
One call? how about the other 2-3 times it went off duke and they gave it back to duke? including one time where after they gave it back the duke player stepped OOB then passed it to Okafor for the basket and a foul. The charge not called on Winslow(2 times) then they call a BS charge against Wisconsin on a flop. it was a complete joke.
not to mention: Wisconsin attempted 56 shots against Carolina and attempted 23 FTs, against duke they attempted 61 shots and attempted 10 FTs
Now you are making things up. The officiating was bad all tournament, in every game I watched, and that was quite a few games. But to say that the Final Four refs were conspiring for Duke to win it is dumb. The Foul difference in the first half of the championship game would lead any "non-Duke hater" to believe that the refs were pulling for the Badgers, not the Blue devils. The refs refused to let our strongest player, and our best defender/slasher, play much in the title game. I guess in your mind the refs put Okafor and Winslow in foul trouble all game as a cover for their master plan of aiding Duke and handing them the championship? How about the non-call on a Wisconsin player with Duke up 5 with 30 seconds remaining? Tyus Jones was clearly fouled which would have iced the game for Duke, yet the refs called nothing. I guess that was just another part of the "Grand scheme of handing Duke the championship"? You are just a true Heel fan. I know why they call their fans in the Dean Dome a "Wine and cheese crowd", only they spell the first part of the name wrong. It's Whine!
yep, how dare the officials have the audacity to actual call fouls on duke. You were right, clearly duke was held down and overcame horrible officiating. I don't think it is a scheme, I think K intimidates officials which is sad. he spends more time working officials than coaching his team. bad calls happen both ways every game but for a game to be decided by it where every call went toward one team shouldn't happen especially after the easy road to the title game which included UK being picked off. duke won it, they can't take it back now. It doesn't matter how much I whine about it so congrats and I hope you enjoyed it.
Excellent point, just like the 2009 tournament where #1-seeded North Carolina got to the finals without having to face any of the other #1 seeded teams and then beating a throughly exhausted Michigan State team that had to knock off not one but TWO #1 seeds in Louisville and UConn (let's not mention the thievery in the semis). But it's all water under the bridge and the Tarheels can look back and enjoy it.
That '09 team was the best team since '96 UK, they dismantles a tough road en route to the title where they had to essentially play a road game for the Nat'l Title. what thievery are you referring to?
Hahaha, what should I make of this partisan malarkey? Leo Strauss meets the 'Noble Lie?' They weren't even the best team in 2009--Louisville was and was the number 1 seed in the tourney. And only 1 of the other 1 seeds made it to the FF and UConn was knocked out in the other bracket so even though they dominated that tourney, they were NEVER the best team in it, and certainly not the best team since 1996. But if repeating it again and again and again until it becomes fact floats your boat then who am I to say anything……besides, who wants to discuss anything 'North Carolina' when there are 4-games suspensions, million-dollar fines and forfeited draft picks to talk about.
Carolina was the best, it wasn't close. they had some injuries earlier including in the ACC Tourney or they easily get the #1 overall. Carolina was by far the favorite heading into that Tourney. Carolina played a 16, 8 , 4, 2,3 and 2(total 35). the 2 in their Region spent a good portion of the year at #1 then Blake Griffin got hurt but he was healthy for Tourney. they played a 2 seed in the title game in an 80,00 seat building in the backyard of the that team so it was a road game for a Nat'l Championship. duke played 16, 8, 5, 2, 7, 1(total 39). Please don't compare the 2 roads.
It doesn't matter what seed you play, and adding them together to get a sum doesn't reflect anything. Basketball is all about match-ups. Some seven seeds may have been playing at a higher level than some 2 or 3 seeds. I happen to be surrounded by Kentucky fans, and said all year that I wanted to play them. I thought they were over rated, and loved the match up between Duke and UK. Wisconsin outplayed UK. Cal (with his shitty coaching and terrible tactics) didn't make any defensive adjustments during the second half, and Wisconsin got any shot they wanted in route to a chance to play for the title. I remember coach Cal saying early in the year on his local coaches show that he wasn't worried about defense, his team had it all he proclaimed. Wisconsin abused UK's switches on defense, making mismatch opportunities at the bucket. I don't know how many times Booker had to guard some bigger offensive player near the basket, with team help arriving late. I don't know if Duke would have beaten UK, but I damn sure know it would have been close. UK had the easiest path to the championship, not Duke. Notre Dame was the only opponent in their bracket. The Cal had a week to prepare for Ryan's team, and once again he choked with a more talented team than their opponent.
UK had a MUCH tougher path to a championship which was absurd considering they were the overall #1 seed. ND in the regional final(the team that beat duke in the ACC Tourney) then Wisconsin in semi's. I do think duke could have beaten UK, those guards were great and they had a big time big man but UK got picked off. Congrats to duke, they did what they had to do. Reading these Pats posts makes me realize how much of a loon I am for the way I cannot give duke credit.
Very sad to hear, a longtime, loyal assistant to Dean Smith. Had many opportunities to leave for a HC job but never left. Dean then left him a loaded team and he got them to a FF and led Carolina to 2 FFs in 3 seasons as HC. It's been a tough few years for Carolina basketball off the court.
Notredame was a 3 seed, but a matchup nightmare for UK. I really thought UK would get past Wisconsin, but they didn't. I appreciate the due credit coming from one of my biggest rivals, a Heel fan. It's always fun posting when you are in the neighborhood, and It wouldn't be the same on the board without you. Keep it coming my friend! Sorry about the loss of Guthridge, he was a good coach I thought during his short stint at UNC as the head coach. It had to be hard to follow one of the greatest coaches in Dean, although I was never a fan of him or his style.
We did have a tough road but that doesn't really matter. The refs botched some calls down the stretch against UW, that's to be expected though. Bottom line is UK didn't make enough plays when it mattered to win the game. Although, I still believe the non-call on the shot clock violation turned the tide of the game in the last few minutes but great teams overcome those types of things. Gotta give credit to Duke, they won it, regardless of how, they pulled it off. I'm gonna go cry in a corner for a few now.....you guys just had to keep talking about it, didn't ya??? Lol
