Before we say our offense sucks

where do you rank the jets WRs as a group, and which teams do you rank above them.

which of the 12 or 13 teams i ranked above the jets to you think the jets are better then

it is easy to say "we are easily this or that" but that doesnt have much substance if you arent going to refute any of the groups i put ahead of them

i see no case for top 5. i can maybe wrap my head around top 10 if you rank us at 10.

i dont think my ranking of 13th-14th is really a stretch

 

I can name many...how but Doug Williams?

In 1978 --- 7 TD's / 8 INTs' -- 53 QB rating
In 1979 he had 18 TD's & 24 INTs' QB rating 53
In 1980 - 20 TD / 16 INT's 70 rating
In 1981 - 19 TD / 14 INT- 76 rating

Troy Aikman - is another example - his first 2 years:

1989 - 9 TD / 18 Int - 55 rating
1990 - 11 / 18 Int - 55 rating
1991 - 11 / 10 - 86 rating
he continued to greatly improve going further - look it up ...

Not comparing these 2 examples to say that Geno will be just as good or go on to win a SB, just to show that it is very possible.

I can go on - but somehow I get the feeling from this argument you will brush it off ...

 

how does 2 examples = "many".

not to metnion williams happened 35 years ago and troy 25 years ago. not sure that even translates to todays NFL

 

That comment in and of itself tells me it's just a waste of time replying further to any of your posts ....think what you want to think.....you sound like an expert.

 

Do be mad at me for point out the flaws in your argument. if you want to cry and take your ball and go home thats fine. if you want to debate like an adult then address the points ive made:

1) 2 examples from 20-30 years ago is not "many" examples

Do you debate that 2 is few examples? do you think 2 is alot. if so please elaborate
Do you think 30 years is a short time span as to where 2 is significant amount of examples?
I'm not seeing why you would feel this way, as it appears pretty clear that 2 examples in 30 years is a low number

2) The game has changed significantly over the past 25-25 years

Do you debate the game has changed during that span? if so what do you account for the stark differences in both pass attempts and success rates in the pass game?
Do you believe the numerous rule changes have no had a substantial affect on passing in the NFL?


I dont feel like these are outlandish claims, certainly nothing to warrant your childish response