Your definition of "healthy" and most others differs on this point: a WR with a hamstring injury is not a healthy thing... Decker first hurt his hamstring in the Green Bay game, September 14, it's still being mentioned October 6: Updates from Monday, Oct. 6 Anthony McCarron of the New York Daily News provides a statement from Jets head coach Rex Ryan discussing Eric Decker's injury status: Decker warmed up before the game, but could not go. He has dealt with the injury since training camp and it’s limited him during the regular season; he even had to be pulled from practice on Thursday. 'The trainers said he can’t go,' Rex Ryan said. 'The fact that he made the trip I think is a positive thing. He wasn’t ready.' It’s only the second game that Decker has missed due to injury in his career. So, I'm not sure he was as healthy as you claim.
Yes he first aggravated it very late in the game against the Packers so he was good that whole game, then he suited up against the Bears and took only a couple snaps before leaving, then he played a full game against the Lions and looked good before aggravating it again in practice the week before playing the Chargers (October 6th). He was fine after getting that week off. Essentially, Geno was without a healthy Decker for 2 games and one of them was the 31-0 drubbing in San Diego, so I will contend that the presence of Eric decker actually did significantly aid Geno last year.
Yeah, I agree that Decker was an asset. Of course he was considering who he replaced. "He was fine after getting that week off.." But you and I will disagree as to his health for much of it.
WRs are good this year. RB is not where it needs to be for a heavy ground and pound offense. YES, there are tons of running backs on the roster...the problem is none of them are superstar runners. Not saying that Ivory can't be effective but rather that the jets need a home run hitter at RB in order to rely on it.
I know that this might sound a little silly but I think we need to find a way to get ivory more involved in the passing game. His hands are absolutely atrocious but when he did get the ball out of the backfield he was an absolute monster, impossible to take down. There were 3 or 4 plays in the Bears game where Geno just dumped the ball down and Ivory broke multiple tackles for huge gainers. If Geno does start this year having a guy like that can really be an awesome outlet for him. ...provided Ivory can catch the ball
It's going to be very weird to look at a Jets offense that has playmakers...and speed. But remember when there were RBs like Preston Pearson who were only around to catch passes out of the backfield?
The more and more I realize that our offense is dependant on Geno and an over achieving Ivy League has been, I get chills. Do you guys?
The Geno kinda scares me but Fitz doesn't. The only reason for that is we know Fitz will be serviceable whereas Geno has the lowest floor of any starting QB in the NFL. His ceiling is promising but if he hits his floor it would be horrible.
The love for Geno perplexes me. Even West Virginia fans think he's a product of the system. Why the love?
he has not been successful in it, he's put up decent #s on some talented teams while never leading a team to more than 6 wins.
Fitz had his most productive year in this system leading to a mid year 50million extension. That bills offense w fitz at qb was excellent until they were decimated by injury. That team alone went like 7-1. Before injuries destroyed them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
and still has only won as many as 6 games in a season. I don't care about meaningless fantasy #s. he played on some talented teams that he never even got into playoff contention. Fitz is a quality backup, nothing more. if we have any chance at postseason it will be b/c Geno has improved.
But he's won more than 6? It's not meaningless fantasy numbers. That team was near unbeatable until injuries killed them along the line, at rb and I think fitz himself. I'm not saying he's great im simply saying he has historically shown he can produce in this system w sufficient weapons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Interesting...the notion that injuries and lack of talent on the OL and at the skill positions are deemed valid mitigating factors when assessing Fitzpatrick but are ignored when assessing Smith.
Hey, on the bright side, apparently the league is going to run out of quarterbacks before we need to find one. With an even playing field we will be unstoppable! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...t-stance-is-an-nfl-quarterback-drought-coming
injuries are part of the game. They were 5-2 hosting the Jets in 2011. He led Buffalo to 11 points w/ 8 of them coming in garbage time and we beat Buf 27-11. They were healthy that game. They were still healthy losing 44-7 at Dallas the next week, they would win one more game. He's a backup, he cannot play in high pressure games and be expected to come through.
who is "dissing" the WR? not calling these guys top 5-10 wideouts is not "dissing them" im like marshall and am a huge fan of deckers. But we dont have elite skill players on this team and we dont have a top 5 group of wideouts.
you say that like it isnt one of the most unlikely things to possible happen. How many QBs go from being turnover machines who dont put it in the endzone to touchdown machines who dont turn it over much? then testaverte doing it late in his career under parcells i cant think of any/many examples
Fitz gives us the best chance to limit turnovers at the QB position. for that reason i cant see why he shouldnt be the starter when healthy enough
