We don't know that he can play tackle in the NFL. Some scouts think he can while others think he is an OG, period. No way, I take a player like that at #6. I'd rather "reach" for La'el Collins than take Scherff.
Left tackle, Scherff doesn't stand a chance - he's got a good chance at right tackle. I personally think he's an all-pro guard, that can be a pro-bowl caliber RT.
I really appreciate that you took the time to do this and share it with the rest of us. My comments: 6. With the Jets having all sorts of problems scoring points last season year and with many of the top playmakers still on the board, this is not a pick I would do. Go QB (not likely), WR or pass rusher here, even Gurley would be nice, but his injury history worries me. 37. This pick is so close to the top of the round that you are practically getting another first round pick. You don't draft a special teams player here. Treat it like a first round pick. You want someone who is going to immediately help your team. 104. I like this kid out of Harvard. A real tough luck story that has fought and clawed his way to a bright future, either in football or academically. However, the fourth round may be too early. There should be better value here.
You make really good points. If Mariota is there, sure. If Cooper is there, sure. Assuming they are not, I don't like drafting for a pass rusher for one ,since it is so hard to predict who is going to have success in this area and for second, good QB's merely throw under the coverage when pressured and we end up having Harris chase a RB or TE down the field. I would much rather have a good-cover LB which brings us to Shaq. Most LB's are not going to step right in anyway and in Thompson, you have a sure fire ST player. Let's say we get Beasley. He's probably going to ride the bench for a while and he's probably not a particularly strong ST. Plus Thompson is a cover LB way more than Beasley. A pick of Beasley is a waste unless he records 10+ sacks and many pressures a year. While possible, this is not probable. I think Harvard boy could drop based upon some negative press he got but since I want him, I'm going 4th round on him--don't see anyone else at that place that I think tops him anyway given our current need for LB's.
There are better athletic tackles to choose from. I would rather trade down and take T.J Clemmings. That guy will smash you good. Plus he could replace the horrible Giacomini next year.
Defferring? I'm still jot getting your reason. Why would the Jets "defer" from not using a high 3rd rounder while the chances of getting a decent player are better? No one knows what position they'll be in in the 2016 draft. You and 100,000 other Jets all have what they feel are good ideas but who wants to hear that, lol. Lets use some common sense, you honestly think the Jets are going to 'defer' the 3rd pick? Chances are not likely. Chances are better they would use that pick to move up.
Thanks for the response--I am not trying to predict what NYJ will do. I am not using "common sense". I am using strategic uncommon sense and I doubt the FO will follow suit. The basic premises that lead to my strategy are: 1. Without a QB, we are relying upon our defense more than our offense to win games. In this case, an excellent punter is synergistic to this goal. That is, you can win games with defense if you can win the field position battle and for that, you need an excellent punter. 2. The best punter available, Kyle Loomis, will most likely cost a 5th round pick this year and we happen not to have one. Therefore, we need to gain a 5th round pick in this year's draft. 3. Given that our highest needs are QB, OL, LB, and P I'm looking at pick 70 and don't see a value for any of these positions there this year. (I admit that I am using a need-based approach to the draft and there are risks to that as articulated earlier by NCjetfan). 4. Therefore, I am deferring the 70 pick for a 3rd round next year and gaining a 5th rounder this year from this trade and taking Loomis in rd 5. 5. Based upon our needs next year, we now have an additional 3rd round pick that we may use, or trade, etc. What would most people d0? ("common sense") A. Entirely neglect the P and hope to pick one up in FA even thought this is as bad a strategy as you can get given a defensive team. B. Package the pick and trade up to get a risky choice who may not even fill an immediate need. C. Choose a slot WR even though we just signed our own slot WR to 4 years, or add another midround WR to an already crowded situation for WR 4,5, and 6. D. Take a gamble on another non-1st rd QB. E. Pick a 3rd round RB.
I can't believe we missed out on Kyle Loomis. Not having a 6th rounder killed us. McCag should have traded back up into the 5th to steal him. _
Kyle Loomis has not yet signed on with any team in the first round of UDFA signings that I can see, will be a 27 / 28 year old rookie Last update on Rotoworld was in February ESPN's Mel Kiper ranks Portland State senior P Kyle Loomis as the No. 1 place kicker or punter in the class. You're going to hear more about Loomis than most late Day 3 picks due to his fascinating back story. He was Oregon State's starting punter as a true freshman in 2006 before leaving the program to serve in the Army. He didn't return to football until 2013, but quickly re-established himself as a pro prospect
haha--Let's see how funny it is the next time quigley weak-legs one from deep in our own territory. How can anyone possibly agree that taking Deon Simon improves the team more than taking Loomis?
Take it up with Mike McGagnan and Todd Bowles. They disagree. I can't fid him in the draft tracker, who drafted him? _
He's turning 28 in Sept, as he served in the Army prior to finishing his college career. so yeah 5th round was an overestimation, as that's a little old for teams to invest in a rook. kinda surprised he didn't get drafted at all tho, and would love for the Jets to move in now...
I'm just busting IDFs balls, he'd be a great pickup. Quigley is awful. Our punting has sucked since Weatherford left. _
JStokes is correct here - way too much to give up for a fifth this year. If you are totally sold on getting the 5th pick you wanted (still too high for most punters) better off trading down to get that, look at the picks others garnered for moving down in 2015 and still getting picks in the same year but only if you can still get players of a similar level.
Had a fun conversation about Stevie Boy with Coach Westhoff in the parking lot of "Garcia's" up in Cortland last year - this after steak fajitas indoors. Westy was rolling in a Florida-plated Jeep Wrangler. I'm gonna miss the smaller crowd accessibility of the Jets by their "not-so-average" fans there. TGG-wise, I can only think of last year's ignorant special teams parroting by the Kirby Van Der Kamp (Iowa St.) brigade, claiming that he was the lefty reincarnation of Ray Guy - some even suggesting the Jets blow a 5th round pick on that bum……..yes, that bum. Additionally, in prior years we've had some of the (since banned) self-annointed and "most knowledgeable" award-winning experts claiming that TJ Conley and his NCAA-leading 47+ yard average was the real deal because he competed against Bill Belichick's buddy at Fresno State, while conveniently ignoring the fact that Conley punted at home indoors for the U. of Idaho Vandals and competed in-conference outdoors in mostly warm weather "time of the season" venues during his senior year…….and, (this is 'the kicker' - no pun intended) his gross average was 'achieved' at the expense of hang time….i.e. he was a line drive hitter whose inflated gross yard average was exposed in the NFL's northeast. In my humble opinion, while Quig's a nice kid he doesn't have a late-in-the-season-in-the-cold-and-windy-northeast NFL leg either. "Larry Pasquale, please pick up the nearest 'green' courtesy phone…"
LOL--lets see if he beats out Ryan first, shall we? If so, I will be vindicated! Never thought I'd root for a punter on another team,
