Jets select QB Bryce Petty in round 4

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Mannion's stature is based on the offense he ran in college.

    But he's weak armed and slow afoot.

    Petty's knock is the offense he ran in college.

    But he has massive arm talent and he's more atletic.

    Petty can learn a pro offense.

    Mannion can't learn a stronger arm or more athleticism.

    Running a spread offense in college does not mean you CAN'T run a pro offense, it means you weren't asked to.

    Not being able to consistently throw outside the numbers downfield in college means you wont be able to consistently throw outside the numbers in the pros.

    Mannion has a higher floor but a very low ceiling. Career backup at best.

    Petty has a lower floor but much higher ceiling. Could be a productive starter.

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  2. Walt White

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    Yep, that's what hurt him. Then you start seeing the bad throws. And he starts to fling the ball out too with bad fundamentals.

    He's a prototype specimen.

    His fortunes might've been better as a prospect if things worked out with Tennessee. Maybe that works out in the long run for us

    Teach the guy to walk again from the ground up...then start to see what we have in 2016
     
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  3. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    That was meant to say Mannion wasn't worth that high of a pick by the way
     
  4. JStokes

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    I know that. :D

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    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't big on any QB outside mariota and winston in the draft didn't really like mariota either but I could live with draft petty in the 4th round

    The kid probably throws the nicest ball out of all the qbs in the draft and has a cannon

    Hopefully he can learn how to play from under center and pick up the offense
     
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  6. Walt White

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    Right. Considering our lot at QB you have to keep trying. Not wait for magic to land us Andrew Luck somehow.

    It's tough not having a defeatist attitude with our QB situation for me. So I'm glad they picked him where they did.

    We filled a ton of needs in FA and the draft. I'm not worrying about not filling another 'need' with the 4th rd. pick
     
  7. FlaJet

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    Had one way back when..
     
  8. JStokes

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    I think the fact that we filled so many of our needs in FA and trades made this pick of Petty a complete luxury pick with very little downside and potentially superior upside.

    The only guys that went immediately after Petty that I was mildly interested in were Langford (Stacy filled that void) and Crowder (but he is so slight and with Devin Smith, not a need) so we didn't miss out on anyone. And QB is so much more important to this team than another RB or WR.

    We made a brilliant move trading up the one spot to steal the QB we targeted Petty before the Browns could for that extra useless 7th rounder burning a hole in our pockets.

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  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Neither was anybody that does it for a living but Petty might have the most upside of any of the rest, it will just take a year or two to develop.
     
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    I think this kid has a chance to win the starting job and be the future of the franchise......at some point.It won't likely be this year but he has a chance in year two
     
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    Don't kill me for this, but I read this a couple years back and it's always been in my mind looking at draft QB prospects.

    http://rotoviz.com/2013/04/3122/

    Petty is 23 going on 24. Rodgers had already been developed in the NFL for four years by the time he was 25. A guy on that list that intrigues me is Ryan Tannehill because Petty has drawn comparisons to him, for play style, transition concerns and not starting all 4 years. I'd be glad if he can turn into a Tannehill type QB.

    Just saying his age is working against him.
     
  12. LAJet

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    Mark my word. Petty and Leonard picks will make our GM famous for years to come.
     
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  13. Poeman

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    Take a look at this interview guys



    I think he will win the locker room...And eventually can be very good he can harness his tools and convert his spread system style into a NFL QB.
     
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    You have to stop thinking like MAC. Just making too much sense
     
  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Who is Leonard? Oh, Williams..I forget how fast we get on a first name basis.
     
  16. NYJetsO12

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    Doubt he steals any crab legs.
     
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    We're the Jets... It's option 3...
     
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    Leonard the Lion Williams...He will take tha Sons of Anarchy to a new level. I am pumped.
     
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  19. Will

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    Here is what I found on Mannion
    Rams selected Oregon State QB Sean Mannion with the No. 89 overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
    Mannion (6'6/229) was a 43-game starter for Mike Riley's Beavers, wrapping his career with an 83:54 TD-to-INT ratio and 64.6 completion rate. He set 18 school passing records. A turnover machine in college, Mannion's high interception totals are an obvious concern, and he fumbled 30 times in four seasons. Mannion has experience making full-field reads in Riley's pro-style-ish offense, but his arm talent is below starter quality and his performance dipped sharply under pressure. Bright (40 Wonderlic) and the son of a coach, Mannion best projects as a long-term clipboard holder who would likely struggle in extended playing time. Mannion has ideal size and played in a pro-style offense, but completely falls apart in the face of pressure, turning the ball over and taking sacks.

    Here is what I found on Petty
    Jets traded up to select Baylor QB Bryce Petty with the No. 103 overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
    They gave up a seventh-rounder (No. 229) to move up one spot. Petty (6'3/230) made 25 starts at Baylor, finishing his career with a 62.7 completion rate and 62:10 TD-to-INT ratio. Although it affected his accuracy at times, Petty showed toughness as a senior by playing through multiple fractures in his back. Petty is also an excellent athlete for the position, running 4.87 with a 34-inch vertical and outstanding agility scores. Petty spent his college career in a one-read shotgun offense, and his 2014 tape had a lot of blemishes. Still, Petty combines NFL-quality size with NFL-quality arm strength and high-end movement ability. He needs time to develop, but has a shot at becoming a big-league starter.

    Loved Petty's arm and he was described as the most natural passer in this draft by Mayock - undertand he has a lot to learn but stash him away and see if he can BEFORE we condemn the pick.
     
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    Anything we get out of Petty is a bonus. We've been working with driftwood at the QB position for almost a decade now. Should this kid develop in year 2 and give us 5-10 years, would you sign up for that or 10 years of Geno Smith?
     
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