he averaged 2.9 sacks a year and over 30 tackles. Ngata averages 2.8 sacks per year and 31 tackles- is he a bust? this is my point, you can't just spout off #s to evaluate. before anyone asks- NO I am not saying he was as good as Ngata(his 2004 season was) just pointing out how silly it is to just post blind stats.
I didn't say "carried" them. I said "led". Leading is a component of the QB position. and stats are not the only measure of effective play. And then there's the fact that you yourself admit, "He played well in the playoffs..." that's Money Ball, baby!! You're looking at his stats and forgetting that whatever it is he did do, it was enough to have gotten them one victory from a chance at the NFL title. And, here's the thing, the Ground and Pound is no savior to the QB. It keeps every game tighter than hell. Sanchez did give it up A LOT in his rookie year. But with good fortune the Jets got into the playoffs and then Sanchez himself made noise in the playoffs, you know, Money Ball. In then end, because he's human, the losses to the OL, the diminishment of the WR and TE positions and, oh yeah, the TEBOW side show, undermined him and the Jets. Now, he IS diminished. So, sure, we could call him a bust. But that doesn't do justice to the word. Sanchez led, participated in, whatever two pretty good playoff runs. The fact that the Jets weren't consistent enough winners to have a home playoff game doesn't diminish the fact that Sanchez could play well in crunch time. Sanchez is not a bust. Sanchez is in the Richard Todd, Dwayne Robertson realm. Over priced for the 'meh' return on investment. He's not a true bust, like Gholston or Blair Thomas or, Johnny Lam Jones. He's just "busty". I mean as 'bad' as Sanchez was, he made enough plays to keep the Jets on the field until the second to last game of the year. A lot of fans wouldn't call that "bust worthy" play. People thought Sanchez should be better after two years of mostly less-than-average play should yield to a great jump to elite status even when they took his OL and receiving corps away from him. The Jets undid Sanchez. Anyway, you just can't go off calling a "kinda busty" player like Sanchez "the Jets All-Time Worst Draft Pick Bust".
I didn't call Sanchez a bust, and I don't think he was. We agree on that. We agree that he was over priced for the ROI. I never wanted him in the first place, but he actually did better than I thought he would at first. I just took issue with your saying that he "led the Jets to two AFC Championship Games." IMO, and I think that most would agree, when you say a QB "led" his team to the playoffs or to the AFC Championship Game, that indicates that he carried them part of the way, and they made it in large part due to his play. Nothing could be further from the truth with Sanchez imo. He played very well his first game or two his rookie season, and the team carried him to the playoffs. He then played well in the playoffs, but again imo that doesn't mean "led." When I think of "led" I think of great, cerebral QB play like Joe Montana or a QB who throws 3-4 TD passes and throws for 300 yards, or with his confidence and fiery leadership inspires his team to overcome and win. Not just playing relatively mistake-free football and having respectable stats. Thus he participated in two pretty good playoff runs and certainly contributed to them, but no way I agree that he led them or caused them directly. He was not the focus of the team or of even the offense. I agree that Sanchez was entirely mishandled by that buffoon Rex, Schotty and Sparano, probably had his confidence wrecked, and was probably diminished as a player. That said, I'm not sure he ever would have been much better if he had been drafted by a team with a real QB guru and allowed to sit for a year or two behind a great QB. He wasn't that good in his one year in college, his physical tools aren't that great, but are probably good enough that he could have been a game manager-type QB who won't get you any wins, but won't cost you a lot of losses, either. What's screws that up is what's between his ears. He either isn't that smart, doesn't have good football IQ or instincts, or just doesn't learn from his mistakes. Eating a hot dog on the sideline during a game and yucking it up while his team is losing? You call that leadership? Not me.
I wasn't disappointed seeing him playing in the AFC Championship game those first two years. His play wasn't as disappointing to me as was the loss of talent around him. The Jets only invested money in Sanchez, they stopped stocking the offense with talent immediately after trading for Santonio Holmes.
You forgot the Jeff Lageman fumble recovery against the Oilers in the playoffs that led to this: Buddy Ryan was so pissed he his the offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride in the face. Would have preferred we win the game but it was still a fine accomplishment.
To be accurate, we were actually beating the Raiders 38-0 with 6 minutes left in the game when he ate said hotdog. _
I guess I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying that he was eating a hot dog on the sideline while we were losing. It's just the fact that he was eating a hot dog on the sideline. Totally immature and unprofessional. The yucking it up on the sideline while we were losing was a separate event.
Meh, a rookie on the road in a blowout win. I never understood the outrage. If it was an energy bar nobody would have said anything. I don't remember him yucking it up on the sideline during a loss, but I think you could catch every single player having a good yuck on the sideline during a loss. Every single player has probably done it once or twice. _
So that makes it acceptable, especially from the QB and supposed team leader? I know that you're a Sanchez apologist, but come on.
I just didn't think the hot dog was that big of a deal. And I never took Sanchez for a yuck it up type of guy. He always seemed to have the right demeanor when we were losing/lost. He's gone, no need to praise him or bury him anymore. _
Correct, it was the regular season finale and we needed to win to get in the playoffs and we got boatraced. I could be wrong but that may have been the last game the guy in your avatar coached for the Jets.
The Jets destroyed the Raiders in the hot dog game. you are getting your games confused, the Buddy punch was from week 18 of the 1993 season needing the win to get into the playoffs. we lost 24-0. we lost to the Oilers 17-10 in the playoffs 2 years earlier when Ken O'Brien could only lead us to 10 pts despite a million great chances.
So if you are so entertained (enjoy) by a loss kindly explain to us what good that U C in the loss because all I see is that loss moved them farther away from a PO berth & a division title?
you know that every season no matter how bad it is there are wins, right? and we have had a bunch of playoff wins too.
What have that "bunch" of PO wins gotten us? Last I remember the last time we smelled the POs were 4 seasons ago right?
