Magic Mike's pre draft presser

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  1. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    I think the complete overhaul of our secondary was pretty magical.
     
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  2. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    lmao.. nah. He's nothing like Idzik. Clearly
     
  3. SackExchange69

    SackExchange69 Well-Known Member

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    I wanna see him in a gstring, that way when I kick him in his vagina it will hurt that much more.
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    no one said he was.
     
  5. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Heh. I must be misreading your posts.

    Bottom line is he screwed up CB last year, which alone is not waht cost him his job. But imo if he had not done that, he would not have been fired. And the other point is he did not intend the result that occurred, because if he intended what resulted, he must know less about football than most posters on this board.

    The argument simply cannot be made that what ended up happening made any sense except in defending a reactive approach that was always a day late and a dollar short.
     
  6. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Injuries and a guy going MIA was not the intended plan.
     
  7. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I guess I need help understanding why you are not defending Idzik. You can respond and have the last word, but imo excusing what happened as you describe it is defending him.
     
  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Magic Mike is by far the dumbest nickname you could have possibly come up with. Please stop with this nonsense
     
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  9. JetLifeLo

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    people are saying "he could be worse than idzik for all we know' on here..
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    true, he could be. if he were worse than idzik that wouldn't mean he was anything "like" idzik. I'm sorry I had to explain that. God bless you son.
     
  11. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Well if you were gonna be extra technical about it then yea lol
     
  12. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    how is saying that we had injuries at a position defending someone?
     
  13. Big Blocker

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    This has all been gone over many times before. To put it simply, Milliner was hurt, is fragile, before the off season began. His play his rookie year in any event was shaky. It was a huge mistake to count on Milliner returning and playing well. Elsewhere the Cb roster was too thin. The fact that Milliner was hurt was no surprise, and Idzik shold have had more redundancy at Cb.
     
  14. The 1985er

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    Milliner had one major injury to my knowledge prior to coming in the league. And he was relatively healthy in 2013, so he did not have this major injury concern like you're trying to allude to. However considering what has happened the past 2 years it'll be understandable to not fully trust him for now. Then also we were a rebuilding team so it made sense to start Milliner so he can get his experience. That's what rebuilding teams do.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    There is a difference between starting someone to see what he can do and counting on him with no redundancies as a means of avoiding a lost season.

    Your excuse making for Idzik is not making it.
     
  16. The 1985er

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    Okay by that logic Jerry Reese fucked up the Giants CB situation.
     
  17. Footballgod214

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    Vindication!

    http://nypost.com/2015/04/29/why-jets-maccagnan-enter-this-draft-in-the-drivers-seat/

    Why Jets, Maccagnan enter this draft in the driver’s seat
    By Brian Costello

    April 29, 2015 | 11:48pm

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    Mike Maccagnan, you’re on the clock.

    Three months after taking over as general manager, Maccagnan gets to show why the Jets hired him. Owner Woody Johnson wanted someone with a deep scouting background after watching John Idzik, who knew more about spreadsheets than spread offenses, botch the draft the previous two years. He hired Maccagnan, who has been scouting for more than 20 years.

    The first draft test for Maccagnan comes Thursday night in the first round of the NFL draft. The Jets hold the No. 6 pick, and people around the league are wondering what Magic Mike might do.

    Will he trade up to take Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota? It seems unlikely.

    Will he trade down and acquire more picks? Definitely a possibility.

    Will he stay put at 6 and take an impact player? The choice looks like it will be between the second wide receiver in the draft — either West Virginia’s Kevin White or Amari Cooper or an outside linebacker such as Florida’s Dante Fowler, if he drops out of the top 5, Clemson’s Vic Beasley or Kentucky’s Bud Dupree.

    “You want to be perfect,” Maccagnan said last week. “You want to make sure every pick you make is the best pick at that point in time in theory. That’s where the pressure kind of hits you because really when you look at the draft, we’ve evaluated probably just under 1,400 players and then every one of those players will go eventually to have some sort of career in the NFL at some level of production.

    “The tricky thing is this is so much information and data and evaluations and all this information and what you’re trying to be is be as accurate as you can possibly be at projecting the future. So, really when it hits you a little bit is you just think to yourself, ‘OK, have I done enough?’ And that sort of motivates you. That motivates all of us in this role, who probably work crazy hours and, again, talk to our wives at 10 o’clock at night.”

    Maccagnan is riding a wave of popularity after aggressively attacking free agency and filling some of the holes Idzik left behind. By doing so, Maccagnan has put himself in a position where the Jets don’t have that many pressing needs entering this draft. They still have a question mark at quarterback, but it does not appear they will be able to find an answer this year with Mariota and Jameis Winston expected to be gone before the Jets draft. They could use a pass rusher, but certainly could go into the season with Calvin Pace and Quinton Coples as their starters.

    That leaves Maccagnan in position to follow through on the mantra of every GM and take the top player on his team’s draft board when its pick comes up rather than trying to fill a need.

    “To me, it’s one of those pet peeves, need in the draft,” Maccagnan said. “I’ve seen a lot of mistakes have been made over the years with that and that ends up being sort of one of the factors in it. So I’ve been very diligent to when I’m given this opportunity I’m going to try to keep it as separate as possible. Now, obviously, every team has needs. I get that. You want to solve them as best you can but, just because you take somebody, if he doesn’t pan out, you’re still going to have the same need a year from now and you want to solve the problem.”

    New coach Todd Bowles said he will not be lobbying for any players, but said he and Maccagnan have gotten to know each other over the past three months and they are on the same page.

    “We’ve been married right now,” Bowles said. “We have a great relationship. Mike’s outstanding. He’s very diligent going about things. He has his way, which I trust completely. We see things the same way. Usually you have a couple of disagreements here and there, but we’ve been on the same page from Day 1. That helps me out a great deal. I’m sure it helps him out a great deal. He’s a great football guy. He makes it easy for us to look at film and kind of see what we like and how we fit and kind of balance things where he is.”

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  18. jcass10

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    It's nice to hear that they're legitimately on the same page.

    Didnt have that last year lol.
     
  19. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Lurch likely wasn't on the same page as his spreadsheets.
     

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