CleveSteve's Mock

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  1. CleveSteve

    CleveSteve Active Member

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    Thanks! Currently, Robinson is their starting left guard. If they decide he should play LT, then they move Collins to LG. Either way, their line is a total mess right now and they need at least two new starters in addition to Barrett Jones taking over at center.
     
  2. CleveSteve

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    He also said he's going to play out his contract (i.e. not sign an extension)
     
  3. jetfan59

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    I like Collins more too. He is a more versatile player than Scherff, who I think can only play G in the NFL.
     
  4. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    If Beasely is the pick, I will find a way yo accept it, I just don't think he will be.

    I think he is extremely over rated, I would hate the pick, but I would accept it.

    I just don't think it will happen. I really don't. I think he will fall farther than people expect come draft day.
     
  5. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    i think he moved to LT after jake long went down again

    i hear you though, they def need o-line help ... i dont know much about collins so i wanted to know if you think he can play guard well
     
  6. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    This.

    Beasley is overrated big time! He's a 3rd down speed rusher... At #6 we need a guy who is on the field for every down on either O or D.
     
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    I think you could make the case that Collins is the best OT and OG in this class. He started out at LSU as a LG.
     
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  8. CleveSteve

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    ROUND 3


    65. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    RE Nate Orchard, Utah
    Nate Orchard is a highly productive rush end if physically underwhelming as an athlete. He still has room to improve, though, as he came to Utah as a tight end before moving over to the defensive side of the ball.

    66. Chicago Bears (from TEN)
    FS Cody Prewitt, Ole Miss
    *TRADE: CHI #7 and Jay Cutler for TEN #2 and #66* Chicago adds Prewitt, the playmaking safety from Ole Miss to improve the back end of their defense. Prewitt's apparent draft position has fallen since the end of the college season, but looking strictly at his performance on the field, this spot is about right for him.

    67. Jacksonville Jaguars
    RB Duke Johnson, Miami (Fla.)
    Jacksonville adds The U's all-time leading rusher and all-time leading all-purpose yards gainer. Duke Johnson does just about everything well and plays hard every down. He will help take pressure off of Blake Bortles, who struggled as a rookie. Johnson is a versatile back, is a good blocker and an excellent receiver. Has good agility, burst and vision and is extremely tough, but is not a great tackle breaker.

    68. Oakland Raiders
    RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana
    With no pass rushers worth this selection, Oakland opts for Coleman who has good size and good vision. Coleman maximizes the effectiveness of his blockers and will be following Marcel Reece in Oakland. Coleman blocks well in pass protection and is a reliable safety valve in the passing game. Strong runner with build up speed but not a lot of wiggle.

    69. Jacksonville Jaguars (from WAS)
    LT Donovan Smith, Penn State
    *TRADE: WAS #5 and #69 for JAX #3*Having this pick is a bit of a luxury for Jacksonville, and they opt to use it to provide a backup plan if Luke Joeckel doesn’t improve. The number 2 overall pick's play has not been good so far, and he must be on a short leash by now.

    70. New York Jets
    RT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M

    After just missing out on their top three targets in the last three picks, New York settles on Ogbuehi. The Aggie has started at left and right tackle at A&M, but will likely be kept away from the blind side in the pros.

    71. Chicago Bears
    C Andy Gallik, Boston College
    Roberto Garza's retirement creates an urgent need at center. In Gallik, Chicago gets a smart and tough blocker. Gallik played his senior season as a grad student at Boston College and should have a quick learning curve entering the league.

    72. St. Louis Rams
    WRf Tony Lippett, Michigan State
    Lippet brings an underrated combination of size, speed, and run-after-catch ability. He will provide a second real outside threat along with the handsomely-paid Kenny Britt.

    73. Atlanta Falcons
    OG Josue Matias, Florida State
    Atlanta selects Matias, a punishing, athletic, experienced blocker to hold down the left guard position. Matias made 43 starts in FSU's pro style offense and should be able to contribute immediately.

    74. New York Giants
    FS Josh Shaw, Southern California
    The Giants tab Shaw to man the free safety position for them. Shaw formerly starred at safety before being converted to corner due to his man skills. While he doesn't have the quickness to be a full-time nickel and his in-game long speed makes him questionable as an outside corner in the NFL, his instincts and size make him a good safety candidate.

    75. New Orleans Saints
    OG Mitch Morse, Missouri
    The Saints select Mitch Morse, who has started at center, right tackle, and left tackle in his collegiate career. He is still undervalued somewhat, likely due to the poor quarterback play at Missouri this year. He opened a lot of eyes at the combine, though, turning in perhaps the best overall performance in workouts and drills among the offensive linemen.

    76. Minnesota Vikings
    WRp Devin Funchess, Michigan
    Funchess provides a red zone target for Bridgewater. A matchup nightmare, Funchess' frame is ideal to counteract Bridgewater's tendency to overthrow the seam route.

    77. Miami Dolphins (from CLE)
    OG Tre' Jackson, Florida State
    *TRADE: CLE #19 and #77 for MIA #14* The run on offensive linemen continues as the Dolphins take the in-state All-American to plug into the right side of their offensive line. Miami has Billy Turner and Dallas Thomas to fight it out for the left guard spot, but with the release of Shelley Smith, the Dolphins are looking at another starting spot up for grabs. They fill it here with Jackson.

    78. Minnesota Vikings (from MIA)
    SS Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
    *TRADE: NO #13 and #78 for MIN #11 and #110* The Vikings come back and add a new running mate for Harrison Smith in the small school prospect who has been a hot name all offseason.

    79. San Francisco 49ers
    QBm Brett Hundley, UCLA
    With a deep roster and a lot of picks, San Francisco can ensure they grab a quarterback they hope can develop in case things go south with Colin Kaepernick. Here they take Hundley, who has a physical skillset very similar to Kaep's.

    80. Kansas City Chiefs
    ILB Denzel Perryman, Miami (Fla.)
    The Chiefs need a new inside linebacker to pair with Derrick Johnson. He doesn’t have the best range and he can get swallowed up by blocks at times, but when he hits someone there's a decent chance the ball is coming out.

    81. Buffalo Bills
    OG John Miller, Louisville
    The Bills select John Miller, the powerful drive blocker from the ACC. Miller is one of the strongest guards in the entire class and plays with a good solid base. He dominated the Shrine Bowl this year and will fill what is arguably the biggest hole in the Bills' starting lineup after quarterback.
     
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  9. CleveSteve

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    82. Houston Texans
    OLB Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville
    With Clowney's injury status up in the air, the Texans select Mauldin, the big, physical edge defender from Louisville. Back-to-back Cardinals come off the board as Mauldin will play opposite Whitney Mercilus when Clowney can't go, or kicks inside on 3rd downs.

    83. San Diego Chargers
    RB Jay Ajayi, Boise State
    San Diego selects Jay Ajayi, a big, bruising back with straight line speed. The shifty Branden Oliver will serve as a good compliment to Ajayi's "turn the corner and run" style.

    84. Philadelphia Eagles
    FS Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Oregon
    The Eagles take another Duck in Ekpre-Olomu. Nobody knows his abilities quite like Chip Kelly. While undersized, IEO has the instincts and awareness to play inside, outside, or safety in the secondary.

    85. Cincinnati Bengals
    WRs Tyler Lockett, Kansas State
    Tyler Lockett boosts Cincinnati's receiving corps, who is loaded with outside threats. Lockett can play inside or outside with great quickness and good speed and toughness.

    86. Arizona Cardinals
    RB David Johnson, Northern Iowa
    The Cardinals need a sturdy, reliable back to pair with Andre Ellington. David Johnson is a big, intimidating presence from the running back position. He has good build-up speed but is not particularly nimble. Looks almost more like a WR/TE hybrid type player and is coincidentally a very productive piece of the passing game when split out into the slot. Could end up an H-back, but shows poor technique as a blocker.

    87. Jacksonville Jaguars (from PIT)
    CB DJoun Smith, Florida Atlantic
    *TRADE: KC #49 and #87 for JAX #36* Jacksonville opts for the ballhawking local boy in D'Joun Smith, who led NCAA cornerbacks in interceptions in 2013.

    88. Detroit Lions
    OG Arie Kouandjio, Alabama
    Rob Sims' contract is expired and the Lions land a new starting left guard in Kouandjio, the big, experienced blocker from Alabama. Arie doesn't come with the same injury concerns as his brother so the Vikings pick him up to help retool the Lions' offensive line.

    89. Carolina Panthers
    WRp Justin Hardy, East Carolina
    Justin Hardy adds a tough, reliable receiver who has terrific catch-in-traffic ability. Hardy is the NCAA's all-time receptions leader and will continue to produce at a high level in the Carolinas.

    90. Baltimore Ravens
    5T Gabe Wright, Auburn
    With Haloti Ngata on to Detroit, Baltimore backfills with the tremendous athlete Wright. The Auburn Tiger has the size to play the position and suprising quickness.

    91. Dallas Cowboys
    LE Mario Edwards Jr., Florida State
    While a backup quarterback is tempting here, the urgency related to defensive end in light of the Greg Hardy situation results in a legacy pick. Mario Edwards, Jr. goes on to play for the same team Sr. did.

    92. Denver Broncos
    FS Derron Smith, Fresno State
    Denver is in such a bad spot at free safety that they just let their starter walk. Here they select Smith to take his place.

    93. Indianapolis Colts
    CB Steven Nelson, Oregon State
    Indy takes Steven Nelson to imrpove the depth of their secondary. They have very little behind their excellent starters Davis and Toler. Nelson is able to play inside or out, and that flexibility will help protect against injury.

    94. Green Bay Packers
    NT Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Southern Mississippi
    B. J. Raji seemed on his way out in Green Bay, and Letroy Guion had a big party this offseason, so the Pack need to boost their depth at the nose. They select Rakeem Nunez-Roches, who made a name for himself playing a good game against Alabama this year for Southern Miss.

    95. Seattle Seahawks
    OG Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State
    The Seahawks take Sambralio to compete for the spot vacated by James Carpenter's departure.

    96. New England Patriots
    CB Doran Grant, Ohio State
    Revis and Browner are gone. Time to reload the secondary. Grant adds man cover skills to New England's depth chart.

    97 (Compensatory). New England Patriots
    OG Mark Glowinski, West Virginia
    The Pats double up on interior linemen with Glowinski. Glowinski is another tough guard that plays angry.

    98 (Compensatory). Kansas City Chiefs
    5T Marcus Hardison, Arizona State
    KC beefs up their defensive line with Hardison, an athletic disruptor to play end in their 3-4 sceme.

    99 (Compensatory). Cincinnati Bengals
    QBm Bryce Petty, Baylor
    The Bengals select Brice Petty to sit behind Andy Dalton. Dalton probably has one more crack at the playoffs before Cincinnati will consider moving away from them, but their time to hold together this extremely talented roster waiting for Dalton to turn the corner is waning.
     
  10. CleveSteve

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    Round 4 is up:

    http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/R4.aspx

    Here's what I have for the Jets so far:

    http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/NYJ.aspx

    6. New York Jets
    OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
    The Jets add the draft's most explosive pass rusher in Beasley. Todd Bowles has a lot of firepower to get after the QB in his head coaching debut.

    37. New York Jets
    WRp Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
    While the Jets may appear set at wideout now that they've added Brandon Marshall, he's a bit of a wildcard now that he's away from Cutler again. Strong is the best offensive player available at this point and probably the best available overall, so adding him is an easy pick for New York.

    70. New York Jets
    RT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
    After just missing out on their top three targets in the last three picks, New York settles on Ogbuehi. The Aggie has started at left and right tackle at A&M, but will likely be kept away from the blind side in the pros.

    104. New York Jets
    QBp Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
    Garrett Grayson is the hottest name among QBs after the top two, and the Jets are in need of a long-term solution. A new coach means a new quarterback, and Grayson has been linked strongly to the Jets, meeting with the team a week before the draft begins.
     
  11. JStokes

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    Love Jalen Strong but I can't believe we missed out on Duke Johnson by 3 picks.

    MAN does 4-12 feel so much better than 2-14 right now.

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    Getting strong in the 2nd would be awesome. Our red zone offense would be nearly unstoppable.
     
  13. Jetsruby

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    I'm starting to think that if Amari cooper or Kevin White are there, I take whichever one at number 6.

    I don't believe in Beasley, Shane Ray, or Bud Dupree. Kevin White, I know will be stellar.
     
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  14. CleveSteve

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    Final Update:

    http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/default.aspx

    Here's what I have for the Jets:

    http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/NYJ.aspx

    6. New York Jets
    OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
    The Jets add the draft's most explosive pass rusher in Beasley. Todd Bowles has a lot of firepower to get after the QB in his head coaching debut.

    37. New York Jets
    WRp Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
    While the Jets may appear set at wideout now that they've added Brandon Marshall, he's a bit of a wildcard now that he's away from Cutler again. Strong is the best offensive player available at this point and probably the best available overall, so adding him is an easy pick for New York.

    70. New York Jets
    RT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
    After just missing out on their top three targets in the last three picks, New York settles on Ogbuehi. The Aggie has started at left and right tackle at A&M, but will likely be kept away from the blind side in the pros.

    104. New York Jets
    QBp Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
    Garrett Grayson is the hottest name among QBs after the top two, and the Jets are in need of a long-term solution. A new coach means a new quarterback, and Grayson has been linked strongly to the Jets, meeting with the team a week before the draft begins.

    223. New York Jets
    RB Josh Robinson, Mississippi State
    Josh Robinson is a bowling ball as a running back and an accomplished receiver, accounting for over 1,500 yards in Mississippi State's offense last year and leading all SEC running backs in receiving yards. Robinson is one of only three Bulldogs to have ever declared early for the draft, and brings some youth to New York's backfield.

    224. New York Jets (from CHI)
    TE AJ Derby, Arkansas
    Derby is a strong TE with good speed after the catch. He wasn't utilized much in Arkansas' power running offense, but he has an extra gear that a lot of the higher-profile tight ends don't. He is one of the more complete tight ends in the class.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    Not a very sexy draft, but one I'd be content, if not very happy with. Even though Mac doesn't look to address needs in the draft, 5 needs are seemingly met. The lone need I discounted is Grayson at QB. I just don't see him developing into anything other than possibly a backup. That's not a bad thing, because we will need a quality backup, but I'm just not sure he has the arm strength or is good enough to even be a quality backup for the Jets.

    I love that it would add speed and ability to get after the QB to the OLB corps, another talented WR to help our QBs, OL help, possible depth at RB & TE. Good job, as always, Steve. Best of luck for your Browns in the draft.

    If Williams is sitting there at #6, would you want the Browns to trade up for him? If so, what would you give up?
     
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    Hmm, that's a tough one. I don't think I'd want to move up to 6 for Williams given what it would take and that presumably I can get Malcom Brown at 12. I don't agree with the prevailing opinion that he is the best player in the draft, and I don't think he's that far ahead of Brown. JMO.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    Thanks. I respect your opinion. That's why I hope and pray he isn't the one who falls to the Jets. If so, I hope that some team will be in love with him and trade up. Even if the Jets just get an extra 3rd round pick to move down a few spots, they could still add another quality player with that pick.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Damn, I want CLE to trade those picks to us so bad :D ... I think it could be done if we throw in an extra mid-round pick - what you think? AWould you be mad if the Browns traded up? You prob know more about drafting then those guys over in CLE heh ... they may be crazy enough to make the trade.
     
  19. BleedGreen89

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    we're guaranteed to get one of Winston, Mariota, Williams, Fowler, White or Cooper...all are great prospects we just have to wait
     
  20. CleveSteve

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    I don't think there's a player I'd want to move up from 12 to get. If we take something other than a defensive tackle at 12 then I would move up from 19, but nothing in the top 10. Only way I'd want us to move up is if Tampa got cold feet on Crab Legs Winston.
     

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