CleveSteve's Mock

Discussion in 'Draft' started by CleveSteve, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    He had 8 holding calls as a whole last year. What makes you believe he holds on every play? Scherff is an elite run blocking G, that can do a pretty good job on the interior in regards to pass-rushers. Which is exactly what the Jets need. I think he will be an elite G at the next level, as a tackle - but he won't be a great one IMO.

    He could have a Zack Martin like impact on the offensive line.
     
  2. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    i see Zack Martin, and i see Bryan Bulaga.
    i do think he projects to be a good RT in this league. the best thing about him is his versatility though.
    if he looks to be struggling at RT early in his career, you can plug and play him as a very effective G, while possibly revisiting RT at a later point.
    because of that, his floor is very high.. ie a safe pick to contribute imo
     
  3. CleveSteve

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    Watch him get his butt kicked by Maryland this year. Hoo boy. It's embarrassing.
     
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    Here's the link to the NFL Draft Breakdown tape of that game.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Yeah just checked out some of this tape just now ... To be fair, he's playing LT ... he will have a hard time going up against Speed Rushers at the next level, but I don't anticipate him being a LT at all, might not even start out at RT ...

    But man he does get whooped in that tape. At least 10 times.
     
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  6. MikeSLTJ23

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    All you need to do is watch his highlight reel. I don't care what he was called for. I just know that every single play, he holds. I'll pass at least twice in this draft before I took him.
     
  7. 101GangGreen101

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    I'd rather watch the draftbreakdown, not the highlights on youtube.

    There's holding on every play - everyone does it. I think at LT, it would be an issue, but not at G.

    I personally like La'el Collins more, that's just me.
     
  8. MikeSLTJ23

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    Watch whatever you want. There is holding on every play, but shouldn't be the same player. Stay away, that's all I'm saying.
     
  9. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Considering draftbreakdown goes through EACH snap. The story is told more-so on those tapes compared to the youtube highlights. Unless the videos you watch go through EACH and EVERY snap. If that is the case, I stand corrected.

    As far as I am concerned, he isn't holding on every play - but whatever I am not going to nitpick that.
     
  10. BigSnacks54

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    Scherff was hurt all season, you have to factor that in as well when watching him. I perfer Lael Collins, because IMO, he has better hand placement , and I believe he can handle speed rushers better than Schreff can (watch his game against Dante Fowler ). Once Collins gets his hands on a player , it's over, but I do feel that Schreff gets unfair criticism. As I said before he was injured this season and when you watch his games in 2013, you see a completely different player who possess the ability to function in a ZBS (this is what Chan Gailey will run).

    I do believe that Zach Martin was a better prospect than Schreff, but like Martin , Schreff is knocked for silly reasons. I would not be angry with him at pick 6... he's going to be a very good NFL player and I've already seen shades of dominance . As we've seen before, especially in Dallas, an elite OG can help elevate an offensive line to new heights.

    As for your mock draft, I like it and I would be very happy if Beasely is the pick at 6.
     
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    You realize how much sense that doesn't make, right? Highlights should be filled with highlights. When I watch highlight reels of a player that just accentuate he wins battles by holding, why do I need to watch every snap? And you guys really are unbelievable sometimes. Everyone tries to discredit opinions and go to whatever extent necessary. If you want to sit and watch every snap, you need to find something better to do with your time. For me, highlights that show he needs to cheat to win are enough.
     
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    Nice job, Steve. That top 5 is the absolute worst case scenario for the Jets at 6, and I could easily see that happening. If so then Id be fine with Beasley at 6
     
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    If the Titans screw us like that twice, they deserve an Anthrax outbreak. Although I do like Strong.
     
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    33. Tennessee Titans
    WRf Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
    With several great options available at this point, Tennessee goes for the troubled player who might be the most talented in the entire draft. Jay Cutler has a history of getting great production out of troubled players, so Tennessee opts to swing for the fences.

    34. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    LT Cameron Erving, Florida State
    Tampa Bay made a mistake letting Donald Penn go last year, and now they need a new left tackle to protect their new QB. Who better to do it than the man who did so most of Winston's collegiate career? Some may interject that they want Erving to be a center in the pros, but he's also the best available blindside blocker.

    35. Oakland Raiders
    RT T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh
    Finally, Oakland selects Clemmings, the most powerful run blocker in the draft from either tackle position. Menelik Watson hasn't performed well enough to deserve another year, and Oakland must do something to get their ground game kickstarted.

    36. Kansas City Chiefs (from JAX)
    WRf Devin Smith, Ohio State
    *TRADE: KC #49 and #87 for JAX #36* The Chiefs swap the pick they got from Pittsburgh to move up and grab Devin Smith ahead of a number of teams who are primed to take a wideout. Smith adds a second legitimate receiving threat to Kansas City's offense and is just the kind of receiver that Andy Reid has shown an affinity for in years past.

    37. New York Jets
    WRp Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
    While the Jets may appear set at wideout now that they've added Brandon Marshall, he's a bit of a wildcard now that he's away from Cutler again. Strong is the best offensive player available at this point and probably the best available overall, so adding him is an easy pick for New York.

    38. Washington Redskins
    OLB Eli Harold, Virginia
    The Skins address their pass rush with Eli Harold, a long athletic rusher needed to replace Brian Orakpo in Washington's 3-4.

    39. Chicago Bears
    WRd Sammie Coates, Auburn
    The Bears add a home run threat with Coates. Coates' strength and speed make him a threat to take a slant into the end zone just as easily as a go route.

    40. Jacksonville Jaguars (from NYG)
    FS Damarious Randall, Arizona State
    *TRADE: JAX #49 and #103 for NYG #40* The Jags trade once again to move back up and take Randall ahead of St. Louis. In the meantime, they turned their 4th rounder into another 3rd. Randall is considered by many as the best free safety in the draft and the Jaguars certainly need a lot of help in the back end of their defense.

    41. St. Louis Rams
    OG Laken Tomlinson, Duke
    St. Louis continues the rebuild of their line with the addition of Laken Tomlinson. They have now added two experienced and decorated collegiate linemen to the squad.

    42. Atlanta Falcons
    RE Preston Smith, Mississippi State
    Atlanta could go several directions here, but nabbing the top remaining pass rusher is where they ultimately go. Smith will help re-tool the Falcons' anemic pass rush in their return to a 4-3 after their short-lived time in an odd front.

    43. Cleveland Browns
    NT Carl Davis, Iowa
    The Browns continue to shore up their run defense with the powerful Davis. Phil Taylor is in the last year of his deal and it appears the Browns are willing to let him walk when the season is up. They don't have anyone of consequence behind him, and Davis is too good to pass up here.

    44. New Orleans Saints
    TE Clive Walford, Miami (Fla.)
    New Orleans breathes a sigh of relief as Cleveland passes on the most complete tight end in the draft. After losing Jimmy Graham, the Saints bring in another red zone threat who is a strong blocker, aiding their new commitment to the running game.

    45. Minnesota Vikings
    MLB Paul Dawson, TCU
    Minnesota nabs the playmaking Dawson to round out their linebacking corps with Anthony Barr and Chad Greenway. A poor showing at the combine dropped Dawson out of what might have been a first round selection, based solely on on-the-field production, but Minnesota stops his slide here.

    46. San Francisco 49ers
    ILB Eric Kendricks, UCLA
    Back-to-back inside 'backers as the 49ers look for a replacement they didn't expect to have to make two months ago. The retirements of Willis and Borland pushed San Fran to use a second day pick on a position where they thought they were set.

    47. Miami Dolphins
    WRp Rashad Greene, Florida State
    With Kenny Stills on board to take the top off of the defense and Jarvis Landry to work the slot, the Dolphins need a guy to run all the right routes, get open, and move the chains. Rashad Greene is the perfect candidate for that role in this offense and the 'Phins are lucky to get him here.

    48. San Diego Chargers
    C Hroniss Grasu, Oregon
    Nick Hardwick's retirement was rough on San Diego's line. The Chargers hope adding the athletic Grasu can stablize a unit in flux.

    49. New York Giants (from KC)
    OG A.J. Cann, South Carolina
    *TRADE: KC #49 and #87 for JAX #36* *TRADE: JAX #49 and #103 for NYG #40* The G-Men pick up the athletic Cann to man the left guard spot, pushing Weston Richburg inside to center where he was intended to play. New York hopes to upgrade two positions with one pick in this move.

    50. Arizona Cardinals (from BUF)
    NT Eddie Goldman, Florida State
    *TRADE: AZ #55 and #159 for BUF #50* Arizona, seeing a number of teams in front of them interested in a defensive tackle, moves up to snag Goldman to man the nose. Goldman is someone who many think will go in the first round.

    51. Houston Texans
    ILB Stephone Anthony, Clemson
    The Texans select Stephone Anthony, the high-energy linebacker from Clemson. Anthony can fill gaps, tackle, blitz, and cover. He was a big reason Clemson had the top-ranked defense in the country in 2014 and may end up being the best inside linebacker in the draft.

    52. Philadelphia Eagles
    WRf Phillip Dorsett, Miami (Fla.)
    Chip Kelly selects the speedster from Miami to fill the void left by Jeremy Maclin. Dorsett reminds some of another ex-Eagle, Desean Jackson, due to his speed and quickness. Chip Kelly loves to win with speed, and he adds a lightning-fast pass catcher tailor-made for his offense.

    53. Cincinnati Bengals
    UT Grady Jarrett, Clemson
    Cincinnati continues to bolster the D-Line with the addition of Jarrett, the lightning quick tackle who will initially rotate with Geno Atkins.

    54. Detroit Lions
    CB Ronald Darby, Florida State
    Detroit has tried drafting corners for years, but they are still lacking in quality players at the position. With Green Bay and Chicago in the division, they need to have better talent outside. Rashean Mathis is too old to be considered a difference maker at the position. Here they select Darby, after the corner market hit a dry spell for about a round.

    55. Buffalo Bills (from AZ)
    5T Xavier Cooper, Washington State
    *TRADE: AZ #55 and #159 for BUF #50* Buffalo exercises patience and moves back, gaining another pick after seeing their top target, Carl Davis, already off the board. With their initial selection in the draft, the Rex Ryan-led Bills look to add their own Sheldon Richardson in the quick, slippery talented run defender from the Northwest. In moving to a 3-4, the Bills have Pro Bowler Marcel Dareus and Jarius Wynn at end. Wynn is fine depth, but they need more impact and certainly more depth along the line.

    56. Pittsburgh Steelers
    CB P.J. Williams, Florida State
    Pittsburgh grabs the best-tackling corner in the draft at 56. The Steelers need a lot of help on the perimeter, but have also suffered a major lapse in run defense. This move helps address both areas of concern.

    57. Carolina Panthers
    RE Danielle Hunter, LSU
    Carolina's pass rush needs a boost, and LSU's Danielle Hunter is a terrific athlete at the position. LSU ends tend to not accumulate a lot of sacks because of their contain scheme, but Hunter has the length and athleticism to be a good pass rusher in the NFL.

    58. Baltimore Ravens
    CB Eric Rowe, Utah
    Ozzie Newsome lets the board fall to him and he lands Eric Rowe, the long, fast corner/safety combo player for Utah. Baltimore has issues at both positions, so his selection offers flexibility for the Ravens.

    59. Denver Broncos
    ILB Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State
    Denver is disappointed to have missed out on the best nose tackle prospects, but boosts their run defense with the addition of McKinney, who runs fast and hits like a Mack Truck.

    60. Dallas Cowboys
    UT Michael Bennett, Ohio State
    Michael Bennett is a quick interior lineman who can add some pass rush from the inside. Dallas needs more disruption on the interior to improve their defense.

    61. Indianapolis Colts
    FS Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio)
    Indianapolis drafts Quinten Rollins to play Free Safety for the team. The Colts need more turnovers from the safety position, which was Rollins' specialty in his one season at Miami. There will be an adjustment period for him, as he is still new to football, but he can sit a year and learn from Pops Adams in the meantime.

    62. Green Bay Packers
    CB Jalen Collins, LSU
    Green Bay replenishes the cornerback position with the selection of Collins. With Tramon Williams gone, a new starter is needed, and the pool of startable corners is dwindling.

    63. Seattle Seahawks
    WLB Shaq Thompson, Washington
    Shaq Thompson gets to stay home as the Seahawks snag the playmaking, undersized defender to replace Malcolm Smith. Thompson consistently finds ways to create turnovers, and the Seahawks waste no time on their way to the podium to turn in the card with his name on it.

    64. New England Patriots
    OG Ali Marpet, Hobart
    New England selects Ali Marpet, the small school offensive lineman with a mean streak. New England has some retooling to do on the interior of their line, and Marpet is a good candidate to do it.
     
  16. Rockinz

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    I like the Strong pick in the 2nd round.

    If we walk away with Beasley and Strong that's not a bad haul . Even though I'm not sold that Beasley isn't anything more than a 3rd down speed pass rusher...
     
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    really? i thought any bonus money gets accelerated and you take a huge cap hit for it?
     
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    i doubt he goes first round, or at leasy higher then 28ish. i think even if it was a forgone conclusion he would be a top 3 back im not sure a team takes him that high. it just is not a valued position
     
  19. All Gas No Shake

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    nice work!

    my biggest gripe is that the rams took their LT of the future last year. do you have them playing collins at G?
     
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    LOL chi town thinking they can trade cutlers crazy contract to Tennessee for their future, I would totally rather get phillip rivers. much better qb although he would cost a bit more
     
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