Tanking

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by championjets69, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2012
    Messages:
    3,397
    Likes Received:
    1,435
    Tanking is cool for fan talk and what not but it will never happen when 53 guys are competing for jobs and bonuses and coaches are coaching for their jobs. This isn't the NBA or NHL where the trade deadline is so late you trade everyone for draft picks ensuring that you suck enough to get a great pick. I cheered to lose as a fan but no team in the NFL will intentionally tank, whether the GM/Owner wants to is different but it won't matter.
     
  2. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    4,051
    Likes Received:
    1,535
    I saw Ishtar in the theater as a child. It was the first film I can remember seeing where I realized "this is bad" and "something about this film is WRONG." I can't even remember if that film was supposed to be a comedy or what. There was absolutely nobody laughing. It was like the audience had just seen a tear jerker. There was just the dead air of silence. A catharsis.
     
    #42 pdxdrew, Apr 9, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2015
  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    27,721
    Likes Received:
    31,387
    Flip the draft order for non play off teams and you eliminate tanking.
     
    BrowningNagle and RuJFan like this.
  4. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    6,664
    Likes Received:
    7,196
    This thread is retarded.

    I don't usually post useless posts like this, really, but this is just stupid. I could not refrain.
     
  5. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2011
    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    3,251
    Complaining about the sixth pick not being good enough? Jesus.

    2014 - Jake Matthews
    2013 - Barkevious Mingo
    2012 - Morris Claiborne
    2011 - Julio Jones
    2010 - Russell Okung
    2009 - Andre Smith

    Pretty decent group overall. There will be Superstar level talent at 6.
     
  6. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    I have never agreed with one of your posts more than this one.

    The first TWO pints in London are on me.

    _
     
  7. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    And like I said on the first page, how many turds have been drafted 1-5, with people drafted 6 and higher turning out to be MUCH better pros? If Mariota was an Andrew Luck type "can't miss" QB prospect then I would agree we should have done anything to get that top pick. He's not.
     
  8. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    Slippin Jimmy is gonna be Saul next year!!

    _
     
  9. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    Yup. Would have been stupid tanking in 2013.

    This was the year to tank.

    _
     
  10. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,245
    Next year though =/ I hope the new season comes in the fall.
     
  11. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2006
    Messages:
    13,265
    Likes Received:
    7,166
    You're right; they could be better. Also, Marsha, Marsha, Marsha…Luck, Luck, Luck. Is Luck some new measurable like QBR? Do we need to now update the 26-27-60 (Wonderlic-Collegiate Starts-COMP%) Rule to the 26-27-60-Luck Rule.
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,245
    [​IMG]

    No QB in the league today, does more for their team then Andrew Luck.
     
  13. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,962
    I'm not the biggest Luck fan but he was about the biggest can't miss product the NFL has ever seen. I don't really remember the hype that Peyton received in 98 but I can't imagine it was anymore than Luck.

    If there was one QB with Winstons ability and Mariota's personality I think that player could be good. But both of these guys are missing something big.

    Good thing it'll be up to another team to figure that out.
     
  14. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    It's kind of baffling to me that people have their panties in a bunch because we didn't lose two more games in order to draft a guy who has never played in a pro offense. I'm not saying I don't want him, I'm saying it's stupid to act like he's a lock to be a top tier QB in the NFL.
     
  15. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2006
    Messages:
    13,265
    Likes Received:
    7,166
    What do their NFL stats in their first 3 seasons have to do them as collegiate prospects?
     
  16. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,245
    It's more-so HIS stats in comparison. Hes living up to the hype that's for sure.
     
  17. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2012
    Messages:
    4,128
    Likes Received:
    1,851
    Would also do wonders for NBA appeal late in the season
     
    FJF likes this.
  18. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2006
    Messages:
    13,265
    Likes Received:
    7,166
    I just think saying a QB prospect is not Luck as if it's some kind a negative is hilarious. So what? Maybe said QB is the next Rodgers.
     
  19. Sec124DieHard

    Sec124DieHard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    435
    OP is 100% correct. There is no point in referencing past #6 picks, busts at 2, which players are available from year to year, etc. that means nothing. There is no debating that the higher the pick , the better shape you are in. Even if you ultimately select the same person, u have more trade bait, u control your own destiny to a much larger degree, etc. now whether a team can pull off the tank from the head coach to the 53 man roster is entirely different, but the Franchise as a whole is 100% in a better position by tanking in said scenario
     
  20. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    The problem is he's acting like this isn't an issue.
     

Share This Page