I only stated what the law allows and that includes shooting person who is alleged to be a threat to the community if he is fleeing. It does not matter if he is being non-violent at that particular moment. That is South Carolina law whether you choose to believe it or not. In no way am I saying that is the case here but what you previously stated is absolutely wrong.
He found an excuse to kill. We know the motivation behind the murder. Those are as clear as day, if Garner doesn't die, we really don't know if he goes out and kills the same 2 guys. I am specifically talking about those 2 cops in particular. You are simply assuming something else would happen. The only thing you know about that man was that social media post.
That is far from the truth. There you go assuming things again. In no way am I deflecting the murder of the 2 cops. I think it could have been prevented that is my argument. I never said that man killing those 2 cops was right or justifiable. It's just as vile if not more then Garner getting choked out. None of this at the end of the day is right / justifiable. 2 wrongs do not make a right. We as humans can prevent situations such as this from happening. I don't see it getting better however. We have no respect for one another.
Just by looking at that video the cop is absolutely wrong for doing what he did. But once again, just by looking at the raw video, here is another person who instead of obeying a cops instructions, decides to do something he absolutely shouldnt be doing. You don't run from cops people.
Riddle me this.. How did they wind up in the park in the first place? Wasn't it a traffic stop? Didn't see any road. Maybe it was edited out? I guess the lesson here is, don't go into parks with Cops if you want to live to see another day.
that is a great question, so you think the cop dragged him to a park or do you think he ran? the anti cops stuff is such bullshit, do the right things and you don't have to worry about cops.
I'm sure every cop is Officer Friendly in YOUR world. That's not how it works everywhere. Given the 50 year old victim's NFL class speed and conditioning, I'm sure he got out of his mercedes benz and ran a 4.2 into the park. Then he decides to jog back to his car after attacking the cop, taking the cop's taser, then grabs the cop's gun and shoots himself in the back with it 5 times. Sure Junc. Whatever you say man..
I think that just out of the camera view there was an assault rifle laying on the ground and he was running to go get it
I lived in a bad area of South Carolina for a couple years, back when I was younger and full of energy to save the world. It is a different place down there far different from Junc's Mayberry. It was a little freaky to experience life where you can't really trust anyone, including people in authority/the establishment. Coming from NY state I was stunned. I was walking home one night and I was jumped and got the shit knocked out of me. The hooligans broke my jaw actually. When my friend, a big ass marine, tried to fight back they pulled guns on us and took our money. Now that kind of thing can happen anywhere but the difference between living there and living in most places was that we called 911 and they knew what neighborhood it was so we waited ... and waited....and waited... were talking hour(s). meanwhile I am laying on my porch bleeding away with a broken jaw at 3 AM. The cop finally gets there and doesn't even get out of his car. just takes notes. His help consisted of yelling at me for bleeding in his car and scolding me for walking home from work late at night like that. oh he did ask for an ambulance to come. Meanwhile this was the same police force that would follow my neighbor, who was black, home at least once a week, singling him out and getting out of their cars to grill him with questions for no reason. "What are you doing?" "are you out causing trouble?" etc. etc. etc. So it was odd that they could be there so often so easily for crap like that but when they were needed in my case it was an inconvenience for them to make it to our neighborhood. I am not anti-police I am just saying its a different world down there. North Charleston could be even worse than Columbia where I was... so someone who ignorantly says "do the right things and you don't have to worry about cops" or makes a point to continually point out the victim was running before getting blown away just pisses me off ..
why is he running? what is he running from? I am sure every crime committed by a black citizen is all b/c the police framed them. let's absolve all the crime, let's ignore the criminals and just focus on a potential police situation here. I say potential b/c the last 2 high profile cases they looked bad and were proven not to be bad but those criminals are now heroes. the fake "hands up, don't shot" nonsense. stop committing crimes and you won't be involved w/ police. are you involved w/ police? you are black, are you puled over all the time? and when pulled over do you run? it's not that difficult.
I don't live in a bad area but why is the area bad? b/c of police? maybe b/c police have to deal w/ the bad people committing crimes. what is ignorant is believing every police issue is racist, this stuff doesn't happen where crimes aren't being committed. stop committing crimes and the need for police becomes less and the interactions become more positive. in a high crime area police are on guard 24 hrs a day, everyone should be considered a suspect.
Oh just knock it off already Junc. You don't live in the same world the rest of us live in. You're really trying to make a case for a Cop shooting an unarmed middle aged man jogging away from him 5 TIMES in the back? Really Junc? Even for you, this is a stretch. Sounds more like the East German Secret Police or the old Chilean Death Squads than Officer Friendly.
I did my basic training at Ft. Jackson years ago. Back then, Columbia was rough as hell and we were told about it on base. The only time I went into Columbia was to catch the Amtrak to NY after basic. Sometimes I think some folks need to come down off Mt. Olympus and see how the rest of the world lives.
Don't run away from cops and they won't shoot you in the back. I really don't see how anyone can argue with that logic.
Better not Jog away either...Going into parks with cops isn't a real good idea given the things that could happen.
I am not making a case for the cop, I am saying wait until all the facts come out rather than rushing to judgment like everyone did w/ the other 2 high profile cases which turned out to be justified. I ask again, as a black American are you constantly puled over by police and do you flee when pulled over? all the other stuff is just damn excuses, obey the law and bad things generally won't happen when it comes to the police. "even for you"- knock off that nonsense and act like a damn adult. convicting someone before the evidence has come out is just wrong, you would think folks would learn from al the high profile cases but I guess not. AGAIN, I have not said the officer is innocent. I am simply saying we need to await all the facts rather than rushing to judgment.
you completely missed the point, nowhere I am saying the cop is innocent but why do these folks keep running from police? you see nothing wrong w/ that? putting aside the end result, there's nothing wrong w/ fleeing from police? got it.
