Not for nothing but its funny how these stories didn't come out after a 9 or 10 win season. I love what Bowles is doing so far but discipline only goes so far in today's NFL.
Watch sports long enough and you see the same cycle again and again and again... Dump a disciplinarian and it's 'a breath of fresh air' to have a player's coach who treats them like men. Ditch him and it's 'a breath of fresh air' to have someone who holds the players accountable. Ditch him...
Who were those teams and when were they champions? I don't know of any recently who were undisciplined and won.
Yeah and that's why Rex's players loved him. But the difference this year could be just in discipline by the coaching staff: the players aren't independent entities but a part of a team and a game plan. Maybe a lot fewer penalties and defensive break downs. Guys getting caught out of position and blown coverages. We'll see if this translates into a better team.
Yeah, just agreeing with you that no team in today's league could win w/out being disciplined. You'd have to go that far back to even consider a team. Even so, them being undisciplined is debatable.
The one guy I think could be a barometer on Rex and the Bills is Shady McCoy. He's always been a guy who doesn't mince his words as we see now with his rip job on Chip. Right now he loves the Bills and you know why: they gave him 16 mil for 2015. If not for that he wouldn't have given Buffalo a sniff. We'll see how much he likes it when his team loses close games due to mistakes by the coaching staff. Or break downs by their vaunted defense because of poor play calling by Thurmond and Rex. He's not going to like it so much then.
When players were mature enough and could discipline themselves, Rex did okay. When someone asked him to do it, fuggedaboutit.
Yeah but that is basic coaching. Accountability and discipline. You can't think that this is some great new thing right? Rex was like the head frat boy. Yeah he got the players to be motivated but he acted more like a brother than a father. Coaches aren't brothers and Rex is about to fuck the Bills up big time. He is a big doof
Anybody who understood anything knew that when Rex Ryan's teams started losing that the negative stories would surface. For you to be asking for negative stories during the good years is really stupid. Those bad stories always focus k on the way story. But when you take his entire Jets tenure into account, it's not hard to figure out.
You are right 100% when you say discipline and accountability is the basis for coaching. Unfortunately, under Rex regime, we forgot these things. Hopefully Bowles can create a respectful relationship with his players and establish discipline and accountability without creating any tension in the clubhouse. Like some posters say, ultimate discipline is not the answer for harmony. A balanced relationship is key.
Holy shart man nobody is asking for ultimate discipline, this isn't a boys school, maybe asking for young men to not be dumb pieces of shit is the baseline
garbage..the only key is winning and however you do it is just fine, look at bellishit. when ryan had players he did just fine, when they took them all away he didn't..really hard to figure that out?
If you say so Don. To me, part of Bellishit's success comes from a balanced discipline and accountability. PS: Ok cheating as well but that's another discussion
Im not "asking" for negative stories after winning years. Its just funny to me because Rex was most likely the same from the day he got here to the day he left. So just because we won his first 2 years here his level of accountability should be looked at differently after the losing seasons? Makes about zero sense. Do you think he held guys like Holmes accountable? Hell no. But Rex did some great things here. Led this franchise to more success than most Jet fans can remember. And for most of the fanbase to already forget that is pretty shitty. Bowles might end up being better than him. But he has pretty big shoes to fill IMO.
