you can say the same thing about the other guys you rank above him. Pennington, Sanchez, Testaverde.. all were benched for poor play over the years for some real crappy QBs
who is tommy? and you should lock up your photos! haha that didnt sound right.... i assume tommy is your son. and i am not intrested in meeting him.
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/12/25/sports/walton-reversing-field-benches-o-brien-for-ryan.html http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/17/sports/o-brien-replaced-as-jet-quarterback.html http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/18/sports/o-brien-adjusting-to-life-as-backup.html http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/20/sports/sports-of-the-times-jets-need-o-brien-s-successor.html http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/21/sports/pro-football-here-comes-an-audible-it-s-we-want-blake.html
5 different times? Chad was benched one time- when he was hobbling and the team stunk Vinny was benched for Chad Sanchez benched late in a lost season which one was benched for a playoff game? which one benched 5 different times?
What a stupid petty criteria. Every single one of these guys was booed out of the stadium at different parts of their career. I remember my older brother complaining about Rams fans dumping on Gabriel, my sister in law LIVED in SD during the Hadl years and he had it as bad as Kenny ever did, Bert Jones and Jim Hart were both LOATHED at points during their career and my father-in-law was a Giant season ticket holder and was happy after Tittle's career was done. Oh, and some Browns fans hated Sipe. I was 25 at the height of Kenny's career and I never booed ANY Jet until then or since. Please stop with your myopic nonsesne. So which one of these non-playoff winning QBs other than O'Brien is an all time great for their franchise and which is not? Ken O'Brien John Hadl Bert Jones Roman Gabriel Jim Hart Brian Sipe YA Tittle _
He's a good dude. Sophomore at Syracuse. Just made the Club Lacrosse team a month ago, it's extremely competitive but jackasses here will suggest it's like an intramural sport, but they just had a tourney down at the University of Maryland last weekend, this week they are traveling to Rochester and Albany and in the next few weeks to Clarkson, Colgate and Ithaca. He's a 5'-3" goalie so I'm pretty proud of him for making the squad. Beat out 8 other goalies. _
ken O'Brien isn't. how many of those other QBs were benched 5 different times for poor play? you do know Tittle went to the Giants at the end of his career, right? he only played 4 seasons w/ the Giants and had the Giants in 3 championship games. the next time the Giants would see a playoff game would be 17 years after Tittle.
I would never bash a family member, you are an easy enough target. I wish your son well, what he does has nothing to do w/ your intramurals. I still remember talking about that w/ a prominent SU player and how he couldn't stop laughing- same guy that told me how dirty they were which turned out to be true.
So all those guys are franchise greats EXCEPT for O'Brien even though he had as or more successful, as or more productive careers than all of them? And not ONE of them won a playoff game. YOUR criteria, not mine So you've changed your criteria to the subjective "being booed out of the stadium" and being benched for lesser players (even while injured). I get it, because you've always hated the player he's not a franchise all time great but Bert Jones and John Hadl and Roman Gabriel and Jim Hart and and YA Tittle are. Btw, Tittle played his greatest football for the Giants but STILL lost every playoff game he ever played for them. True Giant fans consider him an all time great. Not the greatest, but an all time great. That's why the Giants have a better fanbase than ours. _
You don't have a source inside Syracuse, you're a fraud just like your program. Everyone with real inside sources in my program understood the witch hunt and are happy with the result. I know an ex-coach head coach of UNC basketball who knows ALL the dirt on your dirty program and he LAUGHS at the whitewash that the Wainstein report was. Your time will come and while my banner will stay forever in the rafters, some of yours are coming down. _
all ribbing aside, please explain how Ken was as or more successful than most of those other guys? I haven't changed anything, just discussing facts. Ken was HATED by Jet fans back then. Tittle played in 3 NFL Championship Games losing to the greatest dynasty of all time twice and another all time great team the third time. If Ken got us multiple championship game apps I'd rate him much higher, as it is I appreciate him, I like him but I am not going to overrate him. Tittle played for the Giants from 1961-1964, they wouldn't even make the playoffs again until 1981 after he left. Giant fans should have fond memories.
One by one, which one is not an all time great for their respective franchise and why? Ken O'Brien John Hadl Bert Jones Roman Gabriel Jim Hart Brian Sipe YA Tittle _
haha, witch hunt. you guys have been cheating for DECADES. My source was a prominent PLAYER and I know many people around the program though I got my info from the player. nothing will happen to UNC, they did nothing wrong unlike those cheaters upstate. you are lucky they didn't remove your one lonely banner.
Ken O'Brien- 1 legit PB, I good season, ZERO playoff wins, benched 5 times for poor play, backup won playoff game while he could not. that's all, don't care about the other guys.
I was a Jet fan back then and I never hated him and I couldn't stand to see Ryan in there. He was an inferior player to O'Brien. You've changed the narrative. Gabriel, Hadl, Jones, Hart, Tittle were all hated at some point. You're criteria is rife with hypocrisy. _
were those guys continually booed out of their own stadiums? were they benched 5 times for inferior players(including a replacement player no less) I defended Ken, I don't boo. I would get into it w/ dopey fans that booed him but the point is he was HATED by the average Jet fan. Maybe not you or I but by the majority in that stadium every week which I was the last few years of his career.
The investigation is just starting for you--everyone realizes the Wainstein report is a whitewash that's not going to fly. You know NO ONE in my program and what SU did pales in comparison to what UNC has done for 18 years. I actually know an ex-head coach of UNC basketball. You better hope they never put him on the stand. Those banners be dropping like curtains in the early evening. _
you are clueless as usual, SU was a dirty program. what is alleged at Carolina is nothing compared to what actually happened at SU. You took a picture w/ Doherty- congrats! I told you about this years ago. My source was a prominent player at SU not too long ago. I like when you make things up b/c you know I am right.
