2014-15 NCAA Basketball Thread

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  1. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Wrong.... Jerry Colangelo was the guy behind getting USA basketball back where it belonged.
     
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  2. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Can someone please tell me which one of the referee's calls were responsible for Dekker shooting 0-6 in 3PT attempts?
     
  3. joe

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    Unfortunate, but it happens.

    Heck aside from the baseline out of bounds and the "last touched" calls that went against Wisc., that Grayson kid was using a left forearm shiver a la John Havlichick to ward off the defender every time he went to his right on a drive to the hoop. What I did like was Bo Ryan calling that snot-nosed reporter out on his attempt at a "got ya!" question about the referees during the post-game presser.....and then after calling him on it, telling him to rephrase it. But again, it is what it is and different coaches handle it differently:

    Seton Hall 1989 :
    ...The third-seeded Pirates routed juggernauts Indiana and UNLV to reach the Final Four, where they overcame an 18-point deficit to win comfortably by 17 over powerhouse Duke.
    In what only can be described as cruel twists of fate, the two central figures who collided (figuratively and literally) in what remains the most controversial call in the history of Final Fours (and maybe in all of college basketball) allowed their respective lives to spiral years later.
    Seton Hall guard Gerald Greene, whom referee Clougherty famously called the blocking foul on with three seconds remaining in overtime and Seton Hall leading, 79-78, has been in and out of trouble and substance abuse for years.
    His current whereabouts is not known by even his closest former Pirates teammates.
    Wolverines guard Rumeal Robinson, who was granted those two controversial free throws and made both to win the game, is serving time in the Federal Correction Institution in Oakdale, La., for defrauding investors in a series of scams he cooked up after his NBA playing career was over.
    Just as he did that night in the immediate aftermath of the controversial loss, Carlesimo never has criticized Clougherty. His Seton Hall players, in turn, followed suit and acted with such class afterward they were revered and remembered almost as much as the winners were. - M. Canizzarro, NY Post


    North Carolina 1994:
    ...Not that Dean Smith's competitive nature didn't cause him to exude some indignant sour grapes on occasion after losses. In 1994, after one of his most talented teams with Rasheed Wallace and Jerry Stackhouse was upset by Boston College in Landover, Md., I watched Smith insinuate that Jim O'Brien's Eagles won because they and particularly power forward Donya Abrams played dirty basketball: "I had warned the team prior to the game about No. 24 [Abrams]," Smith carped afterward. "We saw him step on toes on videotape and trip [players]." It was that sort of holier-than-thou patina that could rub other coaches the wrong way. - David Jones, Penn Line/Patriot News
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Dean's teams always played the right way, Donya Abrams mugged Derrick Phelps and it was the difference in the game. Carolina still had chances and should have won but they didn't and Dean hated dirty play and dirty play contributed to them losing.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    what does that have to do w/ the 6-7 awful calls in duke's favor late in a close game?
     
  6. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    If Bekker plays that poorly, Wisconsin doesn't get by Arizona.

    If Bekker makes two of those shots, this is a different game.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    why does Wisconsin have to overcome that many blown calls against them? why can't the game be called fairly?
     
  8. BrowningNagle

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    the game was called poorly but not unfairly
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the poor calls all went against Wisconsin so how is that fair?
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    not in the 1st half
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    were there bad calls against duke in the 1st half like the 2nd half against Wisconsin? I remember another time the ball clearly went off duke that they gave them the ball in the 1st half. Other than that I don't remember it being bad either way.
     
  12. Trip McNealy

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    Yeah Rasheed Wallace was all class.
     
  13. nyjunc

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    did he play the wrong way? was he a dirty player? was he in trouble? Rasheed IS all class, one of the best ambassadors for the game.
     
  14. Trip McNealy

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    How does a coach use "1 and done" what does that even mean?
     
  15. Trip McNealy

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    lol, yes he was a dirty player and a cry baby.
     
  16. nyjunc

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    he was whiner but not a dirty player.
     
  17. Charlie Kelly

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    Rasheed Wallace is one of the dirtiest players to ever wear an NBA jersey
     
  18. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    But why is anyone talking about UNC? They weren't even in the final 4
     
  19. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Ask Tom O'Neil.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Rasheed is a great ambassador for the game, beloved around the league.

    the champs this year lost in the round of 64 last year.

    Carolina will be a top 3 team entering next season and one of the favorites to win it all.
     

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