Other Pats News: Aaron Hernandez trial begins

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  1. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    If he gets off it's because of the judge and not allowing shit like (text messages sent by Lloyd minutes before his death. One text, in which Lloyd wrote “I’m with NFL,”) this which while isn't convicting evidence you add all the little things she denied up and it's fairly certain he would be convicted. I think he goes down but I thought for sure OJ would too. I knew George Zimmerman and that other dumb bitch in Florida would get off when she killed her daughter but I think even with the circumstantial evidence his goose is cooked.

    I think they nail because of this....

    Massachusetts law permits what are known as “joint venture convictions.” In them, the defendant is convicted of a crime even if he is not the “principal” actor who carried out the crime.

    The defense could argue that Hernandez didn't know the 2 scumbags were going to kill Lloyd but then why rent the car, why drive to the industrial park?
     
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  2. JetsVilma28

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    "Hang horse thieves and let murderers go. Because horses don't need stealing but some people do need killing"
     
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    I think he's done. There's just way too much circumstantial evidence.
     
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    Were you meaning this quote?

     
  5. mute

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    FALL RIVER — Aaron Hernandez “witnessed” the murder of the man he is accused of killing, his defense attorney said today in bombshell closing arguments to the jury that will decide the fate of the former New England Patriot star.

    The jury has gone home for the day with no verdict and will be back tomorrow morning.

    “He was a 23-year-old kid who witnessed something. A shocking killing. Committed by someone he knew. He didn’t know what to do,” said defense attorney James Sultan, during his 90-minute closing argument. “He just put one foot in front of the other.”

    Sultan indicated that it was either co-defendants Ernest Wallace or Carlos Ortiz - but not Hernandez - who killed 27-year-old Odin Lloyd in a North Attleboro industrial park during the early morning hours of June 17, 2013.

    “I want you to focus on what you know about Wallace and Ortiz and the fact that they took PCP,” Sultan said, reminding the jury of testimony that the two were high on the drug. “Did one of them murder Odin Lloyd without Aaron Hernandez knowing about it?”

    The acknowledgement that Hernandez saw the murder was the first admission by the defense in the nine-week trial that the former tight end was at the murder scene.

    The case — which lacks a murder weapon, eyewitness or clear-cut motive — has h
     
  6. mute

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    Well I think AH is screwed.
     
  7. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Seems like a we're fucked so let's just try something absolutely crazy , if I was a juror the very first question i would ask the other jurors is why after 9 weeks of trial, numerous police interviews this is the 1st time we're hearing about this? The next thing I would ask is why if he knew who did it why would he not try an strike a deal?

    I think he's fucked and his lawyers just sealed the deal, likely hoping for a lesser conviction.
     
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  8. Don

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    I am wondering if that wasn't a ploy by his lawyer so that Hernandez can get a retrial based on his lawyer's incompetence. Maybe they know what the jury will find and this gives him another shot. Of course there is the second trial so it may not matter much anyway. If I'm on the jury I am saying well his lawyer just admitted he was there and he was the driver of the car which went off the road to a deserted area where the murder took place. Of course he was involved and whether he pulled the trigger or not he is just as guilty.
     
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    That he gets a lawyer to make such a statement as another guy killed him without cross-examination is entirely bullshit. I hope the jury isn't so fucking dumb as to let him off.
     
  10. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    That's just it , could the lawyer be hoping for a mistrial?
     
  11. mute

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    FALL RIVER — The judge presiding over the murder trial of former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez on Thursday ordered a WHDH-TV cameraman to stay out of the courthouse for the rest of the trial because he admitted following a bus with jurors on board.

    Bristol Superior Court Judge E. Susan Garsh said she did not believe the Channel 7 camerman, Robert Cusanelli, meant to interfere with the jury and its ongoing deliberations in the first-degree murder trial of Hernandez.

    But she said he had violated a rule she had issued for media coverage of the high-profile case. The rule banned anyone from having “contact’’ with jurors, a word that the Supreme Judicial Court has interpreted to include being physically near them.

    “There was no intent by WHDH to undermine the court’s order or to undermine the deliberations of the court,’’ Garsh said, adding that she would allow WHDH-TV to still have representation at the trial, but from other personnel.

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  12. alleycat9

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    im pretty sure i cant stand that judge..

    the prosecution should have countered that they wanted the ability to cross examine hte douche lawyer who said that and that he could obviuosly put whoever was the murdered behind bars.
     
  13. Bills over Jets

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    You can't cross examine a lawyer...
     
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    Everytime I see your avatar I want to throw up. But so glad he's not wearing Jets gear.
     
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    It's marginally better than the Jubba he had before
     
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    Fifth day and the jury is still out. And there haven't been very many questions from the jury in recent days. At least one juror is having difficulty putting the gun in Hernandez's hand. Probably more than one. If it were only one, I think you'd see the majority sending more questions out, trying to get something back that will convince the holdout to flip so they can all go home.
     
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    Pretty good way for the murdering dude's defense attorney to wrap up his summation:

    “Even if you find he was present, that’s not enough,” Sultan said. “Even if you find he associated with the perpetrators, that’s not enough. Even if you find he knew it was going to happen, that’s not enough. Even if you find he didn’t do anything to stop it, that’s not enough. Even if you find he may have been involved, that’s not enough. Even if you find he was probably involved, that’s not enough. Even if you find there was a strong likelihood he was involved, that’s not enough. Even if you find he helped cover it up or assisted the perpetrator afterward, that’s not enough.

    “It’s hard to convict someone of murder in our system of justice. It’s supposed to be hard.”
     
  18. mute

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    He must be thinking about training camp

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  19. JetsVilma28

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    More likely smoking some weed.
     
  20. Don

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    he can still be found guilty of 1st degree even if the gun wasn't in his hand, just not the most serious level of 1st degree. if that is all it's down to his life his over.
     

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