Todd Bowles doesn't need an Elite QB to win games

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  1. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    I see people on here comparing Bowles to Parcells a lot. Since I will be the first to admit I know little about player analysis, was Phil $imms considered an elite quarterback?
     
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    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct, but those QB moves were made while he was there and that's all I have to go on. I was responding to the question of why I don't have confidence that Macagnan will find a good QB for the Jets. Truth is, I don't know whether he will or not. I sure hope he does, but if he does, he will break a long tradition of Jet failure at finding good QB's.
     
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    The ad at the top of my browser says "Resource for Bowel Cancer Specialists" wtf
     
  4. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    So please tell me how exactly does Geno fit that description?
     
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  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He's not elite? And he should have finished that statement and said a few non-franchise QBs make it to the playoffs but NONE of them win the superbowl, at least not in recent history.
     
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  6. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    Geno isn't decent right now he's a bottom of the barrel NFL starting QB.

    That's the problem.
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    That was sarcasm..anyway I hope Bowles isn't really stupid enough to think he doesn't need a franchise qb and that is all part of the early spring smokescreen that everybody throws up.
     
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  8. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    I know that's why I put the LOL at the beginning.

    If there aren't any to be had can't force it. JMO

    I'm hoping for a veteran to fill the role Bowles described. Like the Chiefs are doing with Alex Smith, the Cardinals are doing with Carson Palmer.

    Is Fitzpatrick that guy? I don't know. He's clearly a upgrade from Geno I'll give him that.
     
  9. Acad23

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    I wouldn't be shocked if Winaston falls to us at 6...

    That'd be interesting.
     
  10. Poeman

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    Winston is going first...end of discussion.
     
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    If he's there I'd take the chance although we're not the ideal organization for a guy like Winston.
     
  12. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    ...well...maybe not since Jenn left.

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  13. AlmostNamedMyDogRevis

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    Don't need an elite QB to win- see Mark Sanchez's two AFC Championship appearances, Christian Ponder's playoff season, Carson Palmer, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning through the years- but it would be nice to have a consistent one who can be solid. See that more in Fitzpatrick than Geno, though I guess Geno's ceiling is higher. His basement is just way too low.
     
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    Really we are celebrating Christan Ponders ,Carson Palmer and Andy Daltons playoff lossess?And Sanchez doesn't deserve to be mentioned on that list either our num 1 defense and running game got us there Sanchez made plays when he had to but he didn't get us there on his back......
     
  15. AugustWest

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    Nothing more than a blind squirrel finding an acorn.

    Any QB could have done that with the #1 defense and the #1 running game.
     
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    Welcome, August West.
     
  17. AlmostNamedMyDogRevis

    AlmostNamedMyDogRevis Active Member

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    That's my point exactly- the jets did it without an elite QB, so technically, Bowles is right- we don't need one to win. It'd just be damn helpful.
     
  18. AlmostNamedMyDogRevis

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    I think that's what Bowles is trying to say
     
  19. Donttasemebro

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    Phil Simms was a game manager. He was a dumb, more conservative Fitzpatrick with a slightly stronger arm.
     
  20. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    Dumb? How dumb can a Super Bowl winning QB be? The lowest Wunderlic test score ever belongs to Akili Smith, apparently. Cinci fans are silently cursing to themselves for that pick!
     

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