2014-15 NCAA Basketball Thread

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Unlike Villanova, NCAA Tournament success is a criteria at St. John's.
     
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    MParty7441 and I called this weeks ago. Even mentioned Masiello as St. John's has tapped into Manhattan College before (Fraschilla who was a good hire before he got N. Mex 'sly' behind their back, Brian Mahoney who was a nice guy but in over his head as a head coach). Lavin this year ended up with nothing left in term of numbers/bench, underachieved with what talent he did have (when he had the bodies) and his 'local' recruiting chops left a lot to be desired. Compare him with another depth-strapped coach Archie Miller of Dayton who was down to 6 scholarship players.

    St. John's hadn't gotten into the tournament until this year. On the other hand, Dayton got royally screwed by the NCAA in 2013, went to the Final 8 last year and this year got screwed again having to play that "play-in" game (even if it was at UD Arena-shouldn't have had to in the first place). From there, UD had to play 6 games in 9 days--again without a bench--taking out Providence along the way and then hanging with yet another higher-seed in Oklahoma until they finally ran out of steam at the end of the game. Wisely, Dayton extended Miller's contract into the 2022 season--they know a good thing, while at the proverbial end of the day, SJU knew they didn't long term-wise.

    That said, I wish Steve Lavin continued good (big 'C-free') health.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    unlike Villanova St. John's hasn't won a Tournament game this Century.

    In their HISTORY St. John's has 14 tourney wins(including the old 3rd place game in the old days). Under Wright alone 'Nova has 13 tourney wins.
     
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    WOWWWWWWWW haha. Andy Katz said the Johnnies were working on a extension.

    I think a candidate came forward. Could it be Jackson or Hurley????
     
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    Damn I am psyched, Mullin, Jackson, Hurley...So much could work out there...I was dreading another 4-5 years of a high personality guy in Lavin who is really not a good head coach
     
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    Under Wright, Villanova was favorite against ther opponent over 80% of the time in the NCAA Tournament. Under Lavin.....?
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    under Lavin they barely made the Tourney b/c they couldn't win enough games in reg season.

    ZERO tourney wins under Lavin, last Tourney win was 1999(Ron Artest was playing), FOURTEEN tourney wins in their history and Jay Wright's 'Nova alone has 13.
     
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    This made me Smile
     
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    From what I have been reading, Mullin is the favorite. Second would be Hurley.
     
  14. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I'm curious as to why Tim Cluess isn't a candidate? Are they just looking for somebody a little more high profile? What the guy has done at Iona is nothing short of a miracle.
     
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    Clueless doesnt do anything for the fan base. If they hire Mullin, I would pumped. They hear Cluess I'm thinking meh.
     
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    Also, apparently Ron Artest has voiced interest in the position. There is less than a zero percent chance of that happening.
     
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    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    So they're looking for a big splash as opposed to someone who might be a good coach, not saying Mullin wouldn't but what experience does he have coaching and more importantly recruiting high school kids?
     
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    From the same poster who's now jumped onto the "throw Lavin under the bus" bandwagon?

    should maybe stick to your out-of-region ACC.


    BB, have to repectfully disagree here. Tim Cluess imho is Lavin lite in that they've underachieved here relative to their talent at SJU & Iona. I think the guy's a baby sitter given Iona's lack of discipline and commitment to playing defense. That Iona got to the Big Dance in '12 and '13 was more the automatic bids they received by winning the small conference MAAC tourney. In Cluess' 2 trips to the Big Dance at Iona, the Gaels blew the biggest lead in NCAA tournament history (25 pts. vs. BYU) in 2012 and in 2013 Ohio St. blew them out, dropping 95 points on them in the process. Compare that to MAAC rival Manhattan who in 2014 gave Louisville all they could handle and who (without Iona's talent level) play hard for Masiello and who commit to playing defense. Iona's previous forays into the NCAAs while not successful were for the most part competitive, down to the wire type games:

    1979 Penn L 73-69
    1980 Georgetown L 74-71
    1984 Virginia L 58–57
    1985 Loyola-Chicago L 59–58
    1998 Syracuse L 63–61 (miracle win for SU who needed a fortunate long rebound off a bricked 3 to get a 2nd chance heave from 3 at the buzzer).
    2000 Maryland L 74-59
    2001 First Round Mississippi L 72–70 (best player out for the game, freshman sub point guard with a turnover in the last minute vs. #3 seeded Ole Miss).
    2006 LSU L 80-64

    More telling is that outside the MAAC, Iona hasn't beaten a ranked teams under Cluess during his 5 full seasons in New Rochelle. Their last upset wins were over North Carolina in 2002 and Iowa State in 2005. Cluess didn't put Iona on the map. Iona's program has had some good teams prior to Cluess under Jeff Ruland, Pat Kennedy, Tim Welsh and of course Jim Valvano who compiled a 94-45 record there.
     
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    So excited for this Wisconsin Arizona game today and Louisville vs MSU tomorrow
     
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    Jerian Grant in the last couple minutes was awful. ND got away from what was working and Jerian Grant tried to beat kentucky all by himself. Jerian Grant trying to be a hero lost this game for Notre Dame.
     

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