Who said anything about wanting to go 2-14 every year until you get a franchise QB? I swear some of you guys need to go back to school and learn how to read.
Here's a list of winning QBs since SB 36 (stopping there to leave Dilfer off the list so as to not be accused of selectively stacking or anything like that.) Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady - not elite at this point Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson - not elite Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady - not elite at this point Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady debatable Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger - not elite Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning - elite Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning - not elite Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger not elite Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees - elite Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers - elite Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning - debateable Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco - not elite Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson, - not elite Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady, - elite So, of 14 SB winning QBs, 4 "elite" QBs, 2 "debatable" and 8 QBs who weren't elite at the time. Looks to me like history shows that you can win a SB without an "elite" QB.
This is all fine and good, but the reality is, while plenty of teams 'win games' without franchise QBs, most do not win championships. You need a good QB to win a championship. A game manager isn't going to cut it, most likely. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Go back to school and learn how to read? WTF? Some here need to go back to pre school and learn how to take in info, process it, and use it. That isn't my problem pal, is it you? All I said was........ Keep it in the scope of the entire thread please. Try again
I'd put Aaron Rodgers ahead of Roethlisberger (I think you forgot him for a moment), and Ben ahead of Palmer.
And Flacco played like an elite QB and got a $100 mill contract for his efforts and basically makes the playoffs every year he is in the league. I love the subjective criteria on who's "elite" and who isn't lol. _
I think he said franchise, not elite..there's a difference and everyone on that list but Brad Johnson is one.
I consider Big Ben Elite,He's played in what 3 Superbowls winning two?If that doesn't make you elite then what does?
To use a historic analogy: His point is we need a Namath, a Staubach, a Bradshaw, a Montana to win and keep winning
To me Eli and Mark Sanchez are similar in that they have terrible regular seasons (Eli led the NFL in turnovers last season) but if they can grab the 6th seed, they can turn it on in the playoffs and if their respective defenses show up can potentially win it all. I believe Mark had the best postseasons of any Jet QB, including Namath. There are tons of differences between the two but I'd say those two are the closest. But Eli is a 2x SB winner, Nacho is not, but 'so close' could have been. Now that our D is close to 'complete' there's no more excuses.
Seems like the key is to have a top 10 QB. If you have a top 10 QB with a good defense, you'll make noise. If you have a top 3 QB, you can afford to have a lesser team around him.
Flacco over the years has been dissed by some here, but I've always considered him a clearly above average Qb. Perhaps top ten.
If you have a top 10 QB you go into every game with a chance to win regardless of the circumstances. If you have a mediocre or average or below average QB you need a lot of other help to win. Find the QB. It's the most important thing. _
While efforts are underway to land an elite QB, there are seasons to be played. How much of your annual draft do you dedicate to obtaining a 'potential' elite QB? How much of your draft do you retain to build your team? What type of team do you focus on in the mean time? Defense? Running Game? Other? Would you ever be in favor of selling the farm for 'a shot' at a potentially elite QB (Redskins, RG3)? Or should we stay methodical, building a team while applying reasonable resources at a future QB?
