2014-15 NCAA Basketball Thread

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  1. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Well, NC State is right there too...I know Patrick Ewing was like a God in college.
     
  2. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Again, you guys are WAY off target. I am talking about making the Sweet 16 since 2009, and you are talking about National Titles.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the thing w/ NC State was they had some major injuries during the season, if they were healthy all year they would have easily made tourney and not needed to win ACC tourney to get in.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    bad stretches happen.
     
  5. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Bad stretches do not happen to teams that have had the kind of regular season success that Villanova has had. At least, not without a coach being fired.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    what regular season success? you have only been a high seed 2 of those years. duke lost as a 2 and 3 in the round of 64 in 2 of the past 3 seasons.
     
  7. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Since 2009 we have had two 9-Seeds, two 2-Seeds and one 1-Seed. We have ZERO Sweet Six appearances. That is PATHETIC.
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it's not good but it's not fireable yet. if this keeps up another 3-5 years then I'd look to move on but we know he can coach at a high level and bring teams deep into the tourney.
     
  9. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Again, you are contradicting yourself. The NCAA Tournament is the REAL season. That's all that matters in judging a teams success. Those are the standards YOU set.

    How exactly has Jay Wright demonstrated he can coach at a high level? What sustained success does he have on his resume?
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    those are the standards for the program I follow. I follow a top program, you do not.

    'Nova is always ranked, always in the tourney and usually a top half seed. he's been to a FF, multiple elite 8s and sweet 16s. go get Lappas back if you dislike Jay. he'd be hired for a good job in a heartbeat if he was on the street.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    this isn't Wright related but just wanted to share this:

    Andrew Batchelor‏@awbatchelor 28m28 minutes ago
    Last 12 years:
    Coach A: 8 S16s, 4 E8s, 3 F4s, 0 titles
    Coach B: 7 S16s, 6 E8s, 3 F4s, 2 titles
    Coach B is 7-0 vs Coach A during that time.

    Andrew Batchelor‏@awbatchelor 28m28 minutes ago
    Coach A gets universal praise as an amazing tournament coach. Coach B is "overrated". I'll let you figure out who they are.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Coach A is at the top basketball school, outside of Kentucky. He has more basketball resources than anyone and gets better recruits than coach A.

    Also, coach A has a title as well. The person just limited it to 12 years so as to not include Coach As title and make him look worse for his argument.

    A better comparison would be comparing coach B to Coach C, as in Coach Calipari- of which Coach B loses
     
  13. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    So I shouldn't WANT my program to be elite?

    Where have I suggested firing Wright?

    And even if I did, are you suggesting Steve Lappas is the only person who would want to coach there?
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you missed the point- shocking!

    Roy has been better than Cal too and Cal's just lucky a dirty p[lay by Creighton killed Carolina in 2012 or Cal wouldn't have a title.

    I want the Jets to win the next 10 SBs but it's not realistic. you can want them to be elite but it's not happening.

    No, just suggesting you should look at those #s I posted from 1986-2001 pre Wright.
     
  15. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    When you say stuff like this, I begin to wonder if I have issues expressing myself. You equate wanting Villanova to make two Sweet 16's between 2009-2015 with the Jets winning the next 10 SB's?!?!
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you are saying you want 'Nova to be elite. making one more sweet 16 since 2009 wouldn't make them elite.
     
  17. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    They can't be elite overnight, but to get there, they have to step in the right direction. That includes making at least the sweet sixteen when seeded 1 or 2.

    That is at least moving in the right directions. This program has seriously regressed since making the final four.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    no doubt they should make it when seeded 1 or 2. elite programs like Gonzaga is now, they crushed their opponent last night so I agree but upsets happen from time to time as well. Carolina was defending champ w/ a more talented team in 1994 and lost in the 2nd rd. it happens.
     
  19. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, I am not following you.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    not following what? How good Gonzaga looked?
     

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