If Mariota is sitting at the Jets pick...

Discussion in 'Draft' started by CJLang, Feb 12, 2015.

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If Mariota is sitting there at the Jets pick you'd....

  1. Pick him in a heart beat

  2. Swap with Philly for their 1st (#20) another pick in top 4 rounds and Foles

  3. Swap with any team with a top 20 pick, a 3rd or 4th rounder, and their next year 1st rounder

  4. Would swap, but it would take more than the offers in the poll

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  1. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    The Jets won't be picking in the top ten for the next three years. If MM is there (and the CS believes there is any chance he'll be great), the Jets have to take their shot. Simple.
     
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  2. Matty Jets

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    I tend to agree. Any legit QB in the NFL will not hit free agency, so this is our chance.
     
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  3. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing that any football fan can't grasp that concept. At least a few of us can comprehend it.
     
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    LOL

    Eagles had a 79.8% win rate with Foles at QB.

    You're a Sanchez troll. Go be an Eagles fan already.
     
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    I can 'grasp' the concept very well. You do not draft a 'prospect' QB with the 6th pick or trade up for one unless you are sure that he is a franchise QB based on your due diligence.
    I would rather see Tom Brady have < 2 seconds to throw than have a developmental (IMO) QB. You see where I am going with this.
     
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  6. RubenDias

    RubenDias Well-Known Member

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    I'm OK in drafting a qb with the 6th pick if his name is jameis Winston. That concept I can grasp.
     
  7. lockgang

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    Nah, they want to wait until next year to grab a "better" qb, even though those qb's haven't done s.hit compared to MM.
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Statistically that maybe so, however you should know that collegiate stats does not translate to NFL success. Otherwise Colt Brennan would be an NFL star.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    There is no such thing as a "sure" thing. I agree that you don't reach for just any QB in desperation at pick #6. Your CS, Scouting Dept. and GM need to like him, believe he fits their system and view of where they want to be in a year or two from now, and believe that he has the potential to become a franchise QB. If they do, then you have to take him, especially when there's a QB prospect who: is rated as a top 5-10 prospect; who has all necessary tools to succeed; has the football IQ; has the work ethic and character to succeed;, and your team definitely needs its future QB. The QB position is THE most important position on the team, it's 10-20x more important than any other position. Even an above average or average QB could elevate this team's play significantly, but you don't take him at #6 if you think he's just going to be average or slightly above average. You have to believe that he will develop into a franchise QB. I believe that he will. We may have the chance to see whether Mac and Co. do.
     
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    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    Yup, spot on. you have to take him just for the simple fact it is so hard to get a franchise QB. gotta roll the dice in our situation. makes it evenw orse if you pass and he goes marino on you. much easier to live with drafting a bust qb then it is passing on a franchise one
     
  11. lockgang

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    Not just talking about stats, you know better than that. Wait, you probably don't.
     
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    Andrew Luck?
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    Andrew Luck was thought to be a "sure" thing and turned out to be, but there have been others who were thought to be sure things and didn't exactly pan out. Ryan Leaf?
     
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    Sounds like I know far more than you. What else are you talking about then? Pretty sure 1 QB just won the NC [Cardele Jones] and the other has multiple bowl wins [Connor Cook]. I'd say Cook has established myself pretty well as a collegiate QB. With another yr left.

    Feel free to actually explain your awful opinion.
     
  15. NYJetsO12

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    Yes, and all the weapons you have assembled: Marshall, Decker,Kerley will all be for naught without a decent QB. I cant see why Mac is not assembling a trade up package for MM. He will be enshrined by Woody and the Media and he knows its his feather in the cap going forward from a brilliant FA.
     
  16. al_toon_88

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    While I'm not sold on Mariota, I think if he's sitting there at #6, I have come to the conclusion that we basically need to take him, unless:

    A) Some team, preferably Cleveland, comes at Macc with an RG3 type offer or better. I say preferably Cleveland because I expect them to bad in '16, '17, and '18, or for as long as Jimmy Haslam is the owner. You are talking top-5 or top-10 picks, quite possibly. Big difference between that and where the Eagles, for instance, project to be picking.
    B) Winston, by some miracle, is still on the board.

    Or I would love to have Cooper at #6. I love Kevin White's game, but the bust risk seems higher with him.

    None of the pass rushers seems like a sure thing to me. Odds are at least 1 or 2 of these guys turns in to a complete bust. For that reason, I would prefer dropping back a little to accumulate more picks if we were to take a chance on one of those guys (e.g. Fowler, Beasley, Dupree) or to take a highly-rated Tackle prospect.

    Otherwise, I would love to have Melvin Gordon if we can trade down. But I think it's a complete dice roll when it comes to projecting where Gurley and MG3 will go. They could go early to mid-1st round or slide into the late 1st /early 2nd. Too much of a guessing game, it seems.
     
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    That is the problem with drafting a QB.....lots of swings and misses.....Freeman...Ponder...Manuel...just in the recent past. I believe we can win with more of a game manager type for the next few years with an elite defense rather than drafting and grooming a Qb.
     
  18. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    I understand your point, but none of the guys you mentioned were considered anything close to sure things when they entered the draft.

    Ponder and Manuel were panned as big-time reaches by many pundits. As I recall, Freeman was looked at as a strong-armed guy with potential, a 1st or 2nd round prospect, but no lock to be anything.

    Mariota is not a sure thing either -- there are no sure things when it comes to the NFL draft, in my opinion -- but I think he is viewed more highly than the guys you mentioned.
     
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  19. Demosthenes9

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    Food for though, freaking Geno Smith met all those criteria coming out of college.
     
  20. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    You dont' see prospects like Andrew Luck drop to #6. If you want to wait around for a prospect of that caliber then you should be hoping Jets consistently go 1-15 & 2-14 every year until that sure-thing QB prospect becomes available.
     
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