It would be ill advised to trade Coples and/or Milliner. Both are unproven so they wouldn't command much compensation in a trade, yet they have hope to eventually be value. They are the guys you look to trade FOR not TO. Good Players to trade: Mangold (I love mangold as my pic shows, but he's getting up in age and will retire soon) Brick (he's slowly digressing)
Milliner - yes! Coples - no! However, Milliner probably has no value at this point. Maybe a conditional draft pick. He probably won't even be ready to go by the time the season begins and who knows if he'll ever get back to the player he was. So let him stick around for another year or two. Either he breaks out with us or he busts with us. Getting a late round pick in return is not worth risking him playing great ball for somebody else. Coples is a stud when used right so I wouldn't trade him unless it's a 1st round pick.
Make Milliner available for what, a cup of corn chowder and a day old buttered roll? You won't get anything more.
For a long time is was specific to a race and used in a derogatory nature. However this particular discussion is better suited for other portions of the forum.
milliner has only proven to be Mr injury both in college and the pros...coples we should keep and see how the new coach plays him.
Coples is one of the most important pieces on our defense. It would be crazy to trade him! Milliner, on the other hand, is expendable with all the additions to our secondary. If we could get a 2nd round pick for him, I'd do that deal I think.
I would not trade Milliner. Cromartie could come back here and stink again like he did last time. So could Scrine. Milliner will take some time to get back to full health. But if we have to dump Cro it would be nice to slot Milliner in. He can spend this year watching Revis and learning how to be a pro. And Coples has talent. He goes nowhere until Mo is extended. If Mo gets an extension, i should say.
i never liked the milliner pick but thats easy to say at this point...however, when u have veterans coming back to a team its is usually NEVER like it was before they left. as fans we all get our hopes up and most expect revis and cromartie to step in and perform just like yesterday.... hey if that happens and nothing changes except cromartie having fathered a couple more offspring so be it. we should be so lucky. with that i would rather keep milliner and see how he responds. coples likely doesnt have a cap busting contract and maybe bowles can get something more out of him. i do think we pick a at least one LB pretty high this year with the intent of looking past coples and even harris in a year or 2.
IF (big if) Macc has his sights set on Mariota: Titans had been penciled in to draft a stud D-Lineman with the #2 pick. That was before 26yr old QB Jake Locker threw in the towel. Ooops. Now you can add Tenn to the Mariota lottery. Bad for NY. But what if the Jets offer to swap picks with Tenn and use Coples as trade bait? Tenn gets their stud D-Lineman (Coples) AND the #6 pick to grab a stud WR (or anyone else they covet). Not bad. A week ago Tenn was content with getting just a D-Lineman at #2. Now they get a stud D-Lineman AND a stud WR. Double what they previously would have been happy with. Would that be enough for Tenn to look elsewhere for a QB? What if Tenn would do the swap but only with MoWilk. Could Coples move inside (the position he was drafted for) and provide the stability we get from MoWilk? So here's the question: If Macc has a hardon for Mariota, and Macc is OK with trading one of our better players to get him, who would you be OK trading in order to get Mariota? Coples? MoWilk? Someone else? (Remember, Tenn has a huge need at D-Lineman and were going to go that route with #2 before Locker quit).
I wouldn't do that. It's too much to give up for an unknown. I'm a fan of Mariota and I'd take him gladly at 6 but I wouldn't risk giving up that much for him when it's possible he falls to 6 anyway.
Who knows when Milliner willneven take the field. A torn Achilles? It may be a year before he is back up to full speed.
i hear ya, just wondering if Macc has his sights on Mariota what might he offer Tenn in a trade. I'm not for it or against it, just trying to figure out what MAcc may have up his sleeve. If Macc really want Mariota, offering up Coples to swap picks isn't horrible. Better than giving up future 1st round pics, etc.
Interesting trade that you propose--I really think Coples is a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 OLB. Were I the jets I'd make that trade with Coples not Wilk.
I have never heard that phrase used in a racist fashion. I have seen reference to "fat lips" or "big lips" but never with "juicy"s part of the equation. I did have a reaction when I first read that post, but not a big one. I thought that it was just a unfortunate choice of words. After thinking about it, lots of women these days are getting collagen injected into their lips, buttocks and everywhere else. If anything, I think it might be more of a "sexist" comment.
