Yup exactly..... I'm still completely convinced that Income tax is even legal nor was it ever approved by the government as there is some dispute about Tennessee and them abstaining their vote. You want to know what else ... I live in Taiwan.. now the US government doesn't even recognize Taiwan as an independent nation yet if I open a bank account in Taiwan I have to fill out US tax forms. Do you believe that shit? I am not even earning income in the US yet I have to give the feds my tax information... I said fuck and won't open a bank account here.
No one likes taxes but we need them if we want nice things. The system is stupidly over complicated and needs an overhaul but we cannot not have income tax IMO. This social security shit really pisses me off. I'm sure our government saved us from some big bad boogie man when they created the system but I guarantee you I could do far better investing the money I am forced to put into that bullshit on my own. Pisses me off every year I see the number on my w2. I'll probably have to be 75 or some ridiculous shit before I can ever collect a dime from it too. The FED needs to tighten it's fucking belts. 6.5 million people older than 112? GTFOH assholes. Why people keep blindly putting there faith in these retards is beyond me.
They need to link up their systems with the various's State's Death certificate databases and that should solve the problem...I order death certificates for my business all the time and it's always done based on social security numbers. The rants about income tax...As the OP said in a later post, you need it. Do people think this country can run on nothing? The ranters are nuts. Here in Florida we don't have a state income tax, but have a sales tax and fees and taxes on everything fucking thing possible.
I never said we didn't need it, I just said it might not even be constitutional. It also didn't address my gripe about why the fuck or what business the US government has in my business if I am legally living and working in another country especially if it's one they don't even recognize as being independent. They want me to pay income tax on money I earn outside the US. I don't even have an employer in the US and they want me to pay tax.
Tell that to Jerry Koosman. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...man-prison-failing-pay-taxes-article-1.401824 'Miracle Met' Jerry Koosman goes off to prison for failing to pay taxes Two weeks ago, Jerry Koosman was cheered in Queens with other legendary members of the 1969 "Miracle Mets" lineup. Thursday, he went to prison. Forty years after he helped boost a laughingstock team to World Series glory, the retired pitcher was slapped with a six-month sentence for failing to pay taxes. Koosman, 66, a two-time All-Star lefty, apologized as he was read his fate, saying he got suckered by the anti-tax fringe movement. "Like most people in their sixties, I've made some bad decisions in my life," he said. "I tend to trust people more than I should," he said. "I shouldn't have listened to those people about the tax returns, but I did, and I take full responsibility." Koosman failed to file federal tax returns between 2002 and 2004, defrauding the government out of as much as $80,000. The IRS testified he made $754,950 over those years, including $130,000 from his Major League Baseball pension. In 2002, he made $25,000 from autographs and personal appearances and sold $551,881 worth of stock. Koosman pleaded guilty to tax evasion in May, saying his research led him to conclude that only federal workers and District of Columbia residents had to pay federal taxes. IRS agents who confronted him in 2006 said he showed them three binders of documents challenging the government's right to levy taxes. Koosman's lawyer, Robert Bernhoft, described the former pitcher as an honest, reliable - but naive - farm boy. "He has a reputation for being too trusting and naive," Bernhoft said, arguing for probation. U.S. District Court Judge Barbara Crabb called his crime "a serious blemish on an otherwise outstanding life." She could have sentenced him to a full year in prison but cut the penalty in half, adding a year of supervised release. She said he would have to work out his debts with the IRS. Prosecutors say he still owes the government about $65,000. Koosman, who lives in Wisconsin, played 19 seasons in the majors, including his first 12 with the Mets. Along with pitchers Tom Seaver and Nolan Ryan, he made the Mets Amazin' - and even landed on the cover of Life magazine in 1969. He had 222 wins and 209 losses and a 3.36 earned run average during his career, which spanned from 1967 to 1985. Koosman is also known for giving up Pete Rose's landmark 4,000th career hit in 1984, and retiring the following year. Sometime in the 1990s, he sold the series-winning ball caught for the final out of Game5 of the 1969 World Series. He said he can't remember who bought it, or how much they paid. _
Gotta love it, they send the poor bastard to jail and he still has to pay the IRS the money he "owes" them.
You may not be a fan of the Sixteenth Amendment, but it exists. The income tax is clearly constitutional.
It's all part of this new self centered libertarian narcissism among a certain segment of the population. It needs to be countered.
Maybe there are some libertarians that believe there shouldn't be income tax but don't associate that sentiment to libertarians in general. The majority simply prefer a more simple tax code when it comes to this subject. I've seen you incorrectly apply this (no income tax) stance to Rand Paul in the past. edit: it's possible I'm mistaking you for Bradway on that last point.
I don't recall ever complaining about Rand Paul in specific connection with some proposal to abolish the income tax.
