For a team that finished 4-12 last year we have tremendous opportunities in free agency and the draft to become much better next year. However, sitting on our hands does not seem to be the best way to take advantage of said opportunities. Even with the addition of Brandon Marshall we are not a very good football team right now.
You keep telling people to calm down, but you're the one cursing at posters my man. I'm chill. Like I said, FA could still turn out good for us and in 3 days we may have addressed some key needs. But early indications could be better, that's all I'm saying. And I don't buy the whole de-emphasis of free agency, especially given that our GM went out of his way to say he was going to be aggressive in FA and traded away one of our precious draft picks (!) a few days ago. It's just way too easy—and this was the attitude of many posters when we came up empty handed when Idzik was GM—and reflects a complete and total deference to management. Whiff on free agency? Don't worry, the draft is way more important! Bad draft? But you have to wait 3 years to evaluate players! I'm hoping our GM is different and pulls through and addresses some big holes on both sides of the ball, that's still possible and what I'm hoping for.
It takes 3 years to judge a draft, but an hour to judge FA? The bottom line: We went after our targets. Without any real leverage, we did not get the top guys, which Mikey Mac hinted at early on. I expect the Jets to be big players in the 2nd wave with guys like.... J. Sheard, Culliver, Spiller, Carpenter, Cro, etc..
I've been on this site for a long time and every year people are in an uproar over why we haven't signed anyone as soon as free agency opens. People need to take a step back and let mgmt do their job. Some teams resigned their own players, like we did with Harris....that was a free agency signing people don't look at it that way. Tendering Snacks is a free agency move. We need room to redo Mo's contract, if the want to get done this spring. There are some good players available, so it isn't a lost cause, the Jets might have to overpay for a few. We have to face the facts, the Jets aren't going to turn it around in one year and free agency isn't going to solve all of our issues. It is going to take time, for the team to improve and make the Jets a more viable contender to want free agents to sign with the Jets, money is important but a lot of FAs want to compete for a title. Not having our QB situation settled is an issue. Every year the sky is falling when it comes to message boards during FA.
I think we are all just a little more concerned in light of recent events (last year). It seems like the same process.
From someone who has been on this site a minute, Man Chill, FA hasn't even started. You're drinking the Kool-Aid, I just suggested everyone is drinking. Idzik is no longer around...huge difference.
People supporting billboards are better served jumping off the bridge.....far cheaper and much more effective.
Here is what for sure we can expect from some of our Jet fans tomorrow 1- if we sign a guard half of the responses would be..where is our CB.....you call that aggressive? 2- if we sign a CB of course half of the responses would be reversed, just bitching in a different direction 3- if we sign both a CB and OL well the selection sucks, overpaying, or for that money we could have had so or so BS. Like if the Jets are the ideal destination for all super stars. 4- if we hear no rumors then the sky is falling, the second coming of Idzik is here, we are too cheap or the stupidest comment of all, the new fire the GM billboard needs to come out. The more we bitch about free agency the more apparent it is we don't understart the build through the draft concept, and only fill a couple of holes through free agency. Overpaying in free agency is never a good thing, ever, and no, we will not leave cap money on the table like some of you think will happen. Holes will be filled mostly with second tier contributors, with may be one splash of big money on either CB or OT Calm down folks let see what happens over the course of free agency, not before.
Building through the draft does not work when players become free agents after 4-5 years and leave for top dollar. The best way to take advantage of the draft is to draft the best available player regardless of position. Leaving gaping holes that could be filled with free agents leads teams to draft players to fill "needs" leaving better players behind for other teams.
I'm a very sarcastic whimsy kind of guy. Cursing is part of my vocab. I'm good too man. You clearly are In a differnt category than the people I usually argue with. I agree with most of your post. I am bummed a few players didn't pick us but I know that's just the way it goes sometimes. Last off season it did not appear that we were going after people and when we did (DRC) we low balled them hard. I'm not getting that impression with Mac, we will see though.
I respect this, but this is such an easy you-can't-be-wrong perspective. On the one hand, don't worry free agency isn't over we can still go out and get players! On the other hand, free agency is far less important than the draft, the draft is what's really important! Can't have it both ways.
Odd, given that teams are calling up agents, negotiating contracts, and players are saying goodbye to their now former team...You're right that technically players can't agree to a contract until tomorrow, but to pretend like nothing has happened since March 7th is just not right
I'm not pretending anything. I see it for what it is. This is a chance for the junkies to suicide watch over not receiving their instant gratification. The idea that the Jets are failing at this juncture is ridiculous.
Well, very few people are saying they failed. Struggling? Underperforming? Those seem appropriate terms. Very few (if any?) are saying that the Jets are doomed—this "OMG SKY IS FALLING" language is coming mostly from people ridiculing those that have expressed concern—because the process is not over. But just because things are not complete, IMHO, doesn't make it inappropriate to make conditioned criticism about management's performance to this point. If the reverse were true and the Jets had agreed to terms with a quality Guard and CB, would you still say that it was "ridiculous" to be content with management's performance up until this point?
You're trying to extrapolate unrelated arguments based on a very simple and straightforward statement I made. To judge where the Jets stand right now based on leaks prior to the beginning of the free agency period is utterly ridiculous. I understand that in the modern information age everyone needs their fix so they can feel good, but feeling good won't get the Jets a Super Bowl championship. That's all that matters, and that is not determined by how well they do in getting ahead of the news before free agency starts.
I respectfully think that's it's very related my man. Are you saying that these reports of players agreeing to terms with teams are not rooted in reality? Certainly nothing is official—Frank Gore may or may not be backing out of his agreement with the Eagles—but it's a big leap to say that therefore none of the reported agreements provide are a basis to evaluate a player signing, for better or for worse.
I respectfully think you're a troll who will talk in circles all day. I never said the leaked deals are "not rooted in reality". I said evaluating where the Jets stand based on those deals is a ridiculous exercise. That is all there is to it.
