we all know every year is different. 2 years ago pats played hawks at seattle and didn't get destroyed. it was 23-24. u mad bro game. hawks also had the top D that year, but wilson wasn't as good. but pats D was also bad. no one knows the outcome until they play the game. any given sunday, pats could lose to jets or beat the best team in the NFL. when you have BB/Brady in the SB, you can't count them out because they have proven that they don't get blown out in the SB. and that's a fact.
When you have people using most talented as their main criteria then it's obvious we aren't on the same page. Greatest is much more than that
Nobody gets to set the criteria. It's all about opinions. No one is right or wrong, there is no final answer, no vote to pick the winner. Well, except Brady isn't really the GOAT. _
Lol sure. And it's my opinion that it is more than just talent. That's the easy part. Greatness isn't being born with a cannon. In my opinion of course
yup. physical talent for QB is important, but it's definitely not the most important. if there is such thing as 'mental talent' then brady is definitely one of the most talented QB ever walked on earth.
like most debates we can always compare the hardwares and numbers(compared among peers). that's the irrefutable proof and not somebody's opinion. because at the end of the day, you play to win the game. you can believe whatever you want to believe, but it's a fact that brady went to more SBs, won more rings, more mvps, and won more meaningful games than Elway & Marino. that's the criteria used by the most football critics. there will never be a consensus GOAT. right now it's reasonable to say montana & brady are the only 2 player in the modern era who are in the GOAT conversation. if you go all the way back, then maybe unitas, graham, starr, and baugh are there too. but imagine if brady wins his 5th? i bet the entire media will be ready to crown brady as the GOAT. whether you like it or not, it's the media who decides who's the GOAT. because they will talk about 'brady is the GOAT' ad nauseum, and public(sheep) will just believe what they hear.
Manning has parlayed his deep understanding of the game into the most playoff losses in history, including NINE one and dones. Great point!
The Patriots won at least one SB based upon cheating and knowing exactly what plays their opponent was running. They GOT to another SB because they illegally tampered with the object of the game. It's likely that the other "hardware" was not earned but the result of ill gotten gains. His "hardware" means shit to this discussion. He'll never be Montana, he can't be, that is universally acknowledged. He was never as good as Marino, everyone pretty much acknowledges that too and if he had know the plays that were coming he probably wins 10 Super Bowls. You never saw Elway play so your opinion on him means nothing but just accept it. He was better than Brady. Same with Unitas. A disputed 5th place in the top 5 is nothing to be ashamed about. Isn't there a Pat fan forum you can share your 5000 word nonsense diatribes with? _
Him and the rest of the faux flaming fans at patsasshats are really an art form in circle jerkery Non of those people sans a few even knew what a football was before Brady. This jonesasshole never saw any of the guys on that list outside of 2000. Brady shouldnt be anywhere any all time great discussions due to his weaknesses and cheating.
Google is how you learned to type your shit You never watched more than half of these guys on this list. Many of us have, you're sad as the snot you wipe on your sleeve
Ha. Yeah because getting to the super bowl and losing is worse than not getting there. I always wondered who the morons were that bought that dumb shit. Not surprised that you're among them
but but, montana played 2SBs with a known stickum cheater and his team was so loaded he didn't even have to do too much. and when he left, his backup played flawlessly with the GOAT, jerry rice, and didn't even miss a beat. and i've seen elway choke in 3SBs, got his coach fired, rode davis and sick oline & dline to 2 championships in a down year. i also share plenty of my diatribe in pats forum. and i also go to many other forums. lol yeah, i'm a football nut. i got no life.
You bore me. Besides, the Rice stuff was part of the game. But taping, filming, deflation, all systematic cheating by a scumbag cheating franchise. Enjoy your tainted SBs, doesn't make Brady the GOAT. Actually takes away from his legacy. He''ll never be the GOAT. Can't ever pass Montana and was never as good as Marino, Elway or Unitas. Too bad you never saw any of them. _
put joe flacco instead of bradshaw - steeler wins 6 rings 2SB losses > 2conference championship losses
If this thread continues to be a Jets vs Pats trolling thread it will closed too. Insults and name calling won't be tolerated.
