Other Pats News: Aaron Hernandez trial begins

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  1. GoPats

    GoPats Well-Known Member

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    So you're really, truly suggesting that a successful, pretty much self-made billionaire made a business decision that involved giving a suspected murderer millions of dollars even though they knew it was likely he would kill someone, apparently just hoping that Hernandez wouldn't get caught or something...

    I get that you despise the Patriots, but that's just stupid dude.
     
  2. BacktoQueens

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    calculated business decision..... it didn't work out...... we're on to 2015.
     
  3. GoPats

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    SMH...

    When emotion (hatred) overrides intelligence and logic...
     
  4. mute

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    Aaron's lawyer is currently trolling the Sprint guy on cell tower information. Sprint guy is getting heated and A.Hernandez is smiling in court because of it.
     
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    It's creepy watching that and knowing where these guys headed after this.
     
  7. Burning Elvii

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  8. hardcharger

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    The Patriots have tried dozens of 'reclamation' projects that didn't work, but sometimes they do work.
    To say Kraft knew Hernandez was a murderer is stupid.
     
  9. JetsVilma28

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    http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/us/hernandez-trial/index.html

    (CNN)Two years ago, Aaron Hernandezhad a $40 million contract and was a rising NFL star. Now the former New England Patriot is on trial in the killing of Odin Lloyd.

    Lloyd, a semipro football player, was shot multiple times on June 17, 2013. Hernandez has pleaded not guilty.

    Here are some of the key moments from the past week of his murder trial:



    Victim's sister can talk about the texts


    Judge Susan Garsh on Monday reversed her initial ruling to block any mention of multiple texts from Lloyd before he was slain.

    Lloyd's sister, Shaquilla Thibou will be able to say she received four texts from her brother just minutes before his death.

    The last text came at 3:23 a.m., a minute before workers in the industrial park where Lloyd's body later was found heard gunshots.

    Thibou had been expected to testify Friday, but that testimony was delayed as the court proceedings focused instead on exploring critical cellphone records.

    Thibou will not be able to talk about the nature of the texts, including this one that prosecutors say was from Lloyd: "U saw who I'm with... Nfl... just so u know."

    The judge ruled it would be too prejudicial against Hernandez.



    Gunshots 'like fireworks going off'


    Two plant employees working the overnight shift at Needletech Products Inc., a company in the industrial park where Lloyd's body was found, reported hearing loud bangs at the time he was thought to have been fatally shot.
     
  10. alleycat9

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    see this is where the criminal justice system doesnt make sense.

    yes it would be very prejudicial. it would surely cause harm to this fuck tard. but its true so it should be stated? if that was the text that came through it should be brought up.
     
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  11. Barry the Baptist

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    That's exactly what is wrong with the justice system you are absolutely right. This guy knew he was going to get whacked so he sends his sister a message to let her know who is involved and she can barely even mention that she got texts from him. Prejudicial or not it's important to know in determining.
     
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    Let's just admit it, lawyers suck :D

    But I agree with both of you. Mind you I'm not a defense attorney (or a trial attorney for that matter) but I agree with both of you wholeheartedly. I took very few criminal law and evidence classes in law school but even back then until this day I've never agreed with a lot of the reasonings behind technical prejudicial issues or suppressing evidence (beyond evidence that was obtained illegally). I've alway felt that the conservatism in not being prejudicial to the defendant means you're being overly prejudicial to the victim and the prosecutor/complainant.

    There just doesn't seem to be any balance.

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    They knew he was 'trouble' coming out of UF.

    Aaron Hernandez's NFL entry: What did scouts know back then?
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    • By Albert Breer
    • NFL Media reporter
    • Published: Feb. 19, 2014 at 01:04 p.m.

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    Former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez has been charged with murder in the death of Odin Lloyd.

    It's been nearly four years since I wrote, for the Boston Globe, that a number of positive drug tests led to Aaron Hernandez's precipitous fall in the 2010 NFL Draft.
    This isn't revisionist history. Personnel directors and execs said then, in the days immediately after that draft, that the Florida tight end likely would've been a low first- or high second-round pick otherwise.

    But there were whispers at the time, too, that Hernandez was caught up in more serious things. The word "gang" was bandied about in conversation. Since team officials I talked to at the time said it never really went past the rumor stage, we decided, in print, to stay away from it. What was obvious was this was a guy, with drugs and otherwise, who had a way of getting himself into and then out of trouble.
    So with the Patriots mum when it came to what they knew about Hernandez, either in 2010 or '13, and as I worked through my takeout piece on how college prospects are vetted by teams, an obvious question arose. And it's the same one I sought to answer early that May:
    What, exactly, did clubs know?
    "They couldn't pin a lot of stuff on him (at Florida)," said one AFC college scouting director, whose team had Hernandez off the board. "But people at the school would tell you, 'Every time there's an issue, he's around it.' If there was trouble, Hernandez's name would come up. ... He was a con guy. Very believable. Spoke well. A lot of things inside of you hoped you'd turn him around, but people that I talked to said they didn't trust him, that he'd burn you."
    Those who were at Florida, working under Urban Meyer, confirm that much: Hernandez had a way of beating the system. Said one ex-Gator staffer, "He was really intelligent, and that's why he was such a pain in the ass. He knew how to beat the system on everything."
    Hernandez has been in jail since June 26. He is facing a first-degree murder charge, as well as five gun charges, and also is being investigated in connection to a July 2012 double homicide in Boston. So yes, the system would seem to have caught up with him.
    And by now, NFL teams have looked at how Hernandez got from Point A to Point B as they attempt to refine how they review and reject prospects based on off-field problems. It's a challenge, to be sure.
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    Meyer and his coaches privately told some clubs that, to be managed, it was crucial that Hernandez be surrounded by the right people. At Florida, the staff did its best to dissuade him from going home over breaks in the school calendar because of the element waiting in Connecticut, and even got nervous on game weekends, when that crowd typically would migrate south to Gainesville and roll with Hernandez.
    Meyer also had Tim Tebow rooming with Hernandez for road games, in the hopes that being around the 2007 Heisman Trophy winner would show the standout tight end the right way to do things.
    "The year before he came out, I was at their pro day, and I remember seeing the Pounceys, and then him," said a second AFC college director, whose club had Hernandez on the board, but not draftable where he went (No. 113 overall, in the fourth round). "It was very clear that (the Pounceys) were the leaders, that they were the influential guys, and he was behind them, a tagalong, a follower in that sense. He was always following them. And they were trying to bring him along."

    The failed drug tests (Florida contends it was only one failed test) were, of course, central to the problem -- and it wasn't really the pot. At the college level, players are put in position to pass drug tests; thus, pro clubs look at multiple positives as a sign that an athlete either a) doesn't care or b) has a problem.

    So Hernandez's ability to stay in line was automatically in question.
    Just the same, and even with details remaining shadowy, questions lingered about that crowd around Hernandez and how its presence played into his mental health. The background several clubs gathered had Hernandez gravitating toward an unsavory element within his family after his father's death in 2006, which would wind up forming the baseline of the group that the Florida coaches, and later NFL teams, were so concerned about.
    The tough part was, in football settings, he was mostly OK, showing only flashes of instability.

    The second AFC college director said that one pre-draft meeting his club had with Hernandez got "emotional," with the prospective pick trying to convince the club that he wasn't the con man some portrayed him to be. In the process, he did more damage to his stock, making the officials in the room question if he was worth the trouble.

    As for the questions about gang affiliation, the rumors, again, were there.
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    Hernandez, who has been in jail since last June, still awaits trial. (Bizuayehu Tesfaye/Associated Press)
    Add all the contributing factors up -- the drugs, the questionable characters around him, the need to be monitored and the geography -- and it's easy, in hindsight, to assemble the equation and say the sum result is logical.


    Follow Albert Breer on Twitter @AlbertBreer.
     
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  16. Barry the Baptist

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    I saw that, good way to flip the deck on his slimey lawyers, they kind of fucked themselves with that one. More and more that comes out of this trial I think it's clear he murdered Lloyd of course I'm sure you have some Pats fans on the jury who will allow their personal bias influence their decision. That's my big fear, Hernandez is obviously a dangerous person and should be off the streets. He probably even deserves the death penalty but based on who he is and where the trial is I have doubts he'll get convicted despite all the evidence that comes out against him.
     
  17. JetsVilma28

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    You clearly don't have the pulse of NE and the Pats fans on this one.

    I have yet to meet ANYONE who doesn't believe Hernandez is an animal who needs to pay for his crimes.
     
  19. Bones_Jones

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    seriously? he doesn't even play for pats anymore. why da hell anyone would have personal bias?
     

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