pats weren't as loaded as niners. lol let's not even go there. niners were loaded on both sides of the football. in every position. the talent gap between the niners and say teams like bengals, fins, broncos were ridiculously huge. there is a reason why 84 niners and 89 niners were regarded as 2 of top 10 greatest team of all time. many have them in top 5. absolutely stacked. bottom line, to build a team like niners in today's salary cap era is impossible. you can't put together an all star team like that anymore. and let's just pretend pats and niners were equal in terms of talent level compared to their peers. Montana still had Jerry friggin rice for a prime of his career. brady basically had randy moss for a year and a half. give brady #1 WR in the NFL for 6+ years, i'm certain brady would've won more MVPs which would make this debate much more lopsided. because I do value MVPs alot. maybe brady would've had more mvps if he had prime randy moss for 6 years.
top 5 if warner was warner his whole career. warner was no show in the middle of his career. that guy who played for the giants was not the same kurt warner. remember, dude won 2 mvps and went to 3SBs and took 2 completely different teams to a SB. he is a borderline top 10 IMO. again, i'm excluding all the old school guys.
wilson IMO is the most dangerous 'QB who runs' since steve young. he will only get better IMO. and wilson's running ability makes up for his shortcomings. and wilson is a Superbowl champ. dude is 10-1 against the SB winning QB. it's a different game now, and wilson's style of play works in today's NFL especially when he has the beast mode. and i really don't care if brady played 4 donkey QBs in the SB. QBs don't play QBs. QBs play against the defense.
Mark Sanchez was top 5 if his AFC Divisional matchup with the Pats in 2010 was his whole career. sounds silly, right? Please stop, you're sounding kind of silly now. When looking at the immortal QBs of all time, you can't discount crappy seasons or cherry pick the great ones. Kurt Warner was a great QB, and for a span there was as good as anyone. But like you discount Elway at different parts of his career, Kurt Warner was never Elway. Dude, you missed some great great QBs in the 1970s and 1980s and 1990s. _
who really knows if 13 was better than 14? all i know is that hawks were again #1 D in the nfl. 2014 rankings total yards - 1 pass yards - 1 rush yards - 3 points allowed - 1 take/giveaway diff - 4 aaron rodgers will tell you hawks D were pretty damn good this year.
Making up shit isn't going to move your boy up in the rankings. And in his prime, Kurt Warner was a much more talented QB than Brady, but he had those down years while Brady coasted along so you can't put him anywhere near the top 5. But the Seahawks defense the year before was geometrically better than 2014. The Pats got off easy. _
i have elway over warner. hello? i never said warner is top 5. i said he could've been a top 5, if he was consistently great like how peyton and brady were consistently great. normally most top QBs are pretty consistent every year. down year here and there is acceptable. but warner? he was a rock star then he fell hard. and then he rose again. but i do value his 2 mvps, playoff QB rating, 3 SB appearance. that's important for me. and IMO that warrants top 10 ish ranking. again, i maybe only in my mid 30's, i've religiously watched football for almost 30 years. are you saying I know nothing about michael jordan because he entered the league in 1984? i have espn classics. and i have access to internet. i download torrents to watch old films. i can't definitely say how i feel about these ex greats because the game is so different back then. yes, it was more violent. but then it was also kinda archaic in every way. honestly, i see more speed in today's college game then 70's game. the speed difference is just too much for me to truly appreciate those great players in the 70's. i don't know about you, but in all sports SPEED KILLS. i know there were transcendent talents like bo jackson. But overall quality of play just doesn't seem like it's up there with today's NFL. i maybe in a minority, but NFL, the billion dollar industry, puts out the best product every year and players and coaches are constantly get better. that's just me.
LOL didn't read. Now that I think of it, Brady may be trending into the 6-10 range. Seriously. I don't think I've given due consideration to Staubach and Favre. _
you know there is something called google. just go google it. i can't post a link. hawks were virtually #1 in all major categories. and doesn't matter if last year's hawks were much better than this years. who da hell knows? i'm not gonna assume things. hawks struggled early, and then they started to look like hawks in the 2nd half and they went on a roll. basically hawks had 3 seasons of the best D in the NFL. remember 'U Mad Bro' game? did hawks rape pats like how they raped peyton? at the end of the day, Pats played the #1 D in the NFL. they didn't play the 2nd best D. not 3rd best D. they played the best D in the National Football League.
Ahhh typical kid. Just google it. Or Wikipedia. That's all the proof you need. "Hey look, it says it RIGHT here on the internet!" Anyone suggesting the 2014 Seahawks defense was anywhere near as dominant as the 2013 Seahwaks defense just wasn't watching football. They were just reading google. Thanks for the lulz. _
Seattle's D was struggling early in the season but were great the 2nd half. Last 6 weeks allowed 6.5 PPG. that D was playing as well as they ever had heading into the playoffs and to only allow 22 pts to a great O like GB when GB had 3 drives that began inside the Sea 35 yd line was spectacular.
ok, let's add all the old schoolers. i just feel like doing it. elway is #11th. sounds about right. 1. brady 2. montana 3. manning 4. unitas 5. marino 6. graham 7. favre 8. baugh 9. young 10. staubaugh 11. elway 12. brees 13. bradshaw 14. fouts 15. aikman 16. warner 17. kelly 18. tarkenton 19. moon 20. rodgers
what's happened in the past happened in the past. this year? hawks were ranked #1. and pats played #1 rated defense and carved them into pieces. and if this year's pats play last year's hawks, result would be the same. it will be a competitive game and could go either way just like this year.
i love young. young was great IMO. if he played for niners from day 1, i bet young would've been considered top 3. favre was 3time mvp. that matter for me. his peak was ridiculous. favre IMO had a greatest arm. make elway's arm look like a child play. marino was the prettiest, but favre had that gun like no other player. and he played at an mvp level with another team - vikings. he was extraordinary that year. IMO that year boosted his value. i think #7 is reasonable spot for favre.
i bet your ranking looks like this 1. unitas 2. starr 3. namath 4. jurgensen 5. bradshaw 6. dawson 7. blanda 8. tarkenton 9. tittle 10. lamonica all the good things happen in the 60s and 70s!
Nice red herring. I'm only 55 so I can't speak to Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham but funny that you include those guys in YOUR list because google told you to. Unitas was the first great QB I ever saw as a little tyke, kind of like you and Elway. The rest of your list is just stupid and trolling so I won't indulge you. Montana, Elway, Marino all better than Brady. And most likely Unitas too. _
imagine brady never went down in 08. Brady would've had 3 consecutive years with randy moss and would've accumulated more stats and maybe even award or two. no doubt brady would've been in the mvp mix. it's safe to say brady's peak year would've been 2007-2010. and brady basically lost 2 years of his peak due to the devastating injury. i don't count 2009 because we all know brady wasn't brady that year - both mentally and physically he just wasn't brady. my point is i've given peyton the 'greatest regular season QB of all time' title, but i think brady might have stolen that title if he never went down. again, brady lost 2 peak year due to injury. that's significant because who won the mvps in 2008 and 2009? peyton manning.
